Smart Carry Holster review

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To start, I am on the big size. 5'10" and 265 lbs. I decided to try this holster since I am tired of the shifting cant of my Don Hume $22 single steel clip IWB holster for my Para Carry, it worked well for a while, but now that I carry it more often, it bothers me more since I have to adjust it. I tried this new Smart Carry holster with loose jeans, loose shorts, tucked in button up shirt, and untucked polo shirt.

So I received the package about a week I believe after I ordered it. It seems well built to last a while as long as you don't work the velcro straps too much after you have adjusted it to the right size. The extra pocket for the extra mag is an easy and nice touch.

So I strap it on, confirm my Para is unloaded with all ammo out of the room, and put it in the holster pocket and stand there. Feels good standing, doesn't feel straining to my back or anything. So I pull on my jeans and walk around. Chafe, chafe, chafe, the edges of the holster rub against my thighs. Well, that isn't going to work...

I adjusted the holster so it was a bit higher, walk, feels better. Then sit down, aghh, I now have the end of my Para feels like it is inside me thanks to my gut. Two things cannot take up the same space. Even if I carried it lower so that when I sit it jab me, once I get up, the pants seem to make the holster and/or gun move up and jab me when I sit down again. For my normal wear (ie, pants that sit high enough so it doesn't look like I have someone hiding in there), there just doesn't seem to be enough "play" to leave the holster in there without pushing it around.

Either way, high or low, I could never get the gun drawn from a seated position without contorting strangely and drawing undue attention. If the seat has a back, and I don't have much room in front of me (like a restaurant booth) then fuggedaboutit.

Printing, the end of the grip prints but isnt' too noticeable at all unless you actually look for it. Though when it is too low, it prints a lot more. But all that prints is a line, from the edge of the grip.

Standing, after a bit of practice, drawing was pretty easy and quick with a tucked in shirt. With a shirt that sticks out, fighting the shirt out of the way, and then hooking the belt to pull the pants forward, and then trying to reach around the shirt to reach in and draw... in the heat of adrenaline, that could be your end. It was difficult enough without adrenaline.

I e-mailed the people who make the holster, maybe they have some suggestions, so I am waiting for a reply. If nothing works, I believe this holster will be going back for their money back guarantee minus shipping.

I tried moving it to the side like a normal strong side IWB would be carried, and it actually felt good that way. But moving around, the pocket has no retaining method for the firearm, so that would not work at all unless you are comatose.

To sum up, I could see this working for skinny or normal sized people who don't wear tight bottom wear. But for me, an IWB and a slightly larger size shirt works much better. I believe I am going to order a FIST Kydex K1 IWB from http://www.gunnersalley.com or a concealment holster from http://www.threatsolutions.com and see how that works compared to leather IWB.
 
I have something similar from www.invisableholster.com and it works well for me. Allows me to carry when I otherwise could not. I am thin and trim so maybe that does help (whereas it seems to hurt trying not to print IWB with what I have tried so far). I definately need a tuckable solution. So I have had the most luck with this than any other.
 
Thanks for the report.
It's funny how one holster type can work so well for some and not for others.
 
IIRC MPayne lives in his .. oops sorry ... ''with'' his!!:p He finds it excellent and apparently the sitting thing needs practice.

I got mine not so long ago and am still practicing ... sitting being my ''bette noire'' ..... that said, this is IMO a carry method without equal if all your options are used up .. no holster IWB or OWB .. no fanny pack .. no ankle rig etc ..... this will allow a carry when no other will .... and because of that i regard the sitting deal as a small price to pay for the benefits.

Admittedly I am 6.00 and 210 but fairly lean with it so .. no major ''belt overhang'' ... that does make it more viable for me.:) :) It's about as invisible as carry gets potentially.
 
I like mine too especially for summer wear and deep concealment. The only time I’d have trouble drawing from it would be when seated in my truck. I usually switch back and forth with a shoulder rig in the winter, depending on anticipated carrying situation. And yes I agree it’s better suited for those on the leaner side. No offense to anyone.

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Charlie from Smart Carry e-mailed me back and said if I wore it low it shouldn't chafe, and higher, it shouldn't jab me, so he said to go ahead and send it back.

Oh well, I ordered the FIST K1, so I will do a little review in comparison to the Don Hume when it arrives.

When I lose 50 or so more pounds, maybe I will order the Smart Carry again! I've lost 30 lbs this year, so if I actually work out this coming year... :D
 
Invisibleholster.com is just a reseller for SmartCarry.com
- I use SmartCarry and it works great for me.
 
If you wear Smartcarry or Thunderware, what happens when you need to pee? I guess you have to be careful about which barrel comes out of your fly. Only advantage I can think of, it should get you some admiring glances from the ladies who are checking out your "package".
How do you explain it to the young lady that you've just met when the champagne kicks in and she wants to explore and check out Mr Johnson?
At my age I can safely wear one because none of those things are going to happen to me--------deep sigh!
 
FAQs regarding smartcarry

If you wear Smartcarry or Thunderware, what happens when you need to pee?

See FAQ http://www.smartcarry.com/scfaq.htm

Q: I'm a man and I have to use a urinal to relieve myself. Does the gun block my access to the fly in my underwear?

A: It can, but the solution is very simple - just take your index finger and thumb and move the barrel/slide over to your left (right, if you're left handed) and access the fly in your shorts with your other fingers. Once your fingers enter the fly in your shorts, release the firearm and the side of your hand will keep it out of the way. Or, you can grasp the barrel/slide with your weak hand, through your lower outer garment, and move and hold it to your left/right while opening your fly with your other hand. Simply remove your private parts and relieve yourself like you do when not carrying a firearm. You can also do this with one hand, as some men like to hold onto the urinal plumbing for some reason unknown to me! The instructions suggest you practice this a few times in the privacy of your bathroom at home, using an unloaded firearm. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to do this just as easily as you do when not carrying. It only takes about four to six "practice" runs to get it down to perfection!
 
what happens when you need to pee?
That I believe is Charlie's biggest FAQ!:D Take a look at his site ... http://www.smartcarry.com/ and I think even there he deals with it thru explanation.

I'll be honest ... that aspect is a breeze to deal with .... it is still the sitting that I need to refine most .... and even that I consider surmountable with practice and finding right technique.

It is very much ''one of a kind'' as a carry mode ...... and as I have mentioned before ... for me a somewhat ''last choice'' method when all else just won't work .. and looking at it that way I'd say that I am mighty glad to now have it amongst my (growing!:p ) choice of alternative rigs!:)


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Oops ..... just beat me there domzilla9 . :D
 
I realize that this is a strange suggestion but.....why not use a holster?

I carry every, every day. Everywhere. I carry at work all day. I carry at Church and I was carrying at the Pastor's house on Thanksgiving Day. Why on earth do I want to retire my holsters and pack my gun around in my underwear?

Am I missing something kinky?
 
Nemesis ..... nothing kinky!:D

I also pack almost all time with holster ... rarely many probs but .....

In summer it can be damn hot ..... my options decrease a lot. if I wanted to wear shorts and skinny T-Shirt ... my holster options go up the Swany ....... and I have then only really a fanny pack to consider or maybe pocket at a pinch. The SmartCarry solves that even tho it will not perhaps be totally comfortable when the sweat is drippin .. it will tho be good concealment.

Consider too .... for me the remote possibiliy I admit .... a ''do'' ..... the need to wear a tux' ... and the probability that the jacket will come off later. So - options?? ... well IWB and shirt over .. might work but not for me ..... me and IWB still do not really get on.

Pocket? .. maybe but only a mouse, and again will depend on pocket depth etc.

Ankle? Again maybe but only if pants legs big enough.

In the end the way I see it .. this method of carry and concealment is about the ultimate ... leaving aside the possible comfort penalties. Ask MPayne .. he uses his all the time.

It will always be ..''whatever works for you'' but ... don't dismiss this rig altogether - it has its place IMO.
 
I realize that this is a strange suggestion but.....why not use a holster?

Well, technically, smartcarry is a holster. It says so on its U.S. patent.

But to your point, which is well taken, smartcarry affords me opportunities to carry a full size pistol when I would not otherwise be able to carry one. I too own OWB and IWB and pocket holsters (for my pocket guns, of course) but I do not live and work in a CCDW friendly environment. Now, how a RKBA supporter and CCDW permit holder came to live and work in a non-CCDW-friendly environment is another story altogether.

Now I realize that the answer to this post may well be the standard, "you just need a good holster and get used to the fact that you'll need to change your wardrobe." If so, let me premptively reply that I have been there and done that, and it was a very expensive experiment. I do have some smaller compact defensive autos (9mm and larger) that I can carry IWB on my belt a good part of the year. But often I feel that I have to use smartcarry certain days. When I do I always carry a Kel-Tec P-32 in front right pocket as a BUG to the larger auto in the smartcarry, simply because I know that the smartcarry doesn't present the firearm as quickly or as easily as a good holster would.

As P95 said, it's pretty much the ultimate in deep concealment. But I do have caveats regarding body shape:

- Smartcarry is not for fat people. Almost two years ago I weighed 325 lbs on a 6'4" frame, and it wasn't muscle folks. My girth was hampering my ability to conceal effectively. Believed it or not, this was great motivating factor in getting myself in better shape.

- At 250 and a size 40 waist size, I have none of the problems with smart carry, or my other holsters for that matter, that I had when I was heavier. For smart carry to really work effectively you have to have discernable hips.
 
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you have to have discernable hips
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Don't ask me why Dom' ... but that cracks me right up!! Maybe cos it is sooo ............ ''tactful''. haha!

True nonetheless.

I am lucky .. at 6'.00'' and 205 or so . I am for age remarkably free of ''anterior excess'' ...... so it is viable. I applaud your efforts at sheeding the lbs too .. impressive. Kudos Sir!:)
 
Not trying to be offensive or inappropriate or anything. I really wondered about this....
What happens when you get an errection?

It would seem very uncomfortable. It seems to me this holster would act as an impotency belt of sorts.
Nik
 
I'm looking into this also... The website shows a guy who's been carrying a full sized 1911 for a while. His belly might be of a respecitable size, but it cuts back in immediately below his beltline. This leaves plenty of room for a Smartcarry-type holster to hang. Many of the larger people I've seen do not taper in until well below the belt line. This guarrantees the gun will print or the hoslter will not be comfortable if you use this type of gear.

You MUST take into account not just the size, but the shape and contour of your body when thinking about holsters.
 
I had a Smartcarry which I purchased from www.invisibleholster.com (because it's a bit cheaper through them). It didn't work for me and I'm skinny. I feel like it probably works better if you have a bit of a pot belly personally. It could have just been my gun although it was smaller (about the size of a Glock 19) than the full size 1911 that Charlie carries. I ended up sending mine back after trying it every which way. That handle print was just way too big and was much more than just a slight imprint. It looked downright lewd on my body. The guy at invisible holster said I was the first one to take advantage of the 60 day guaranty since he's been selling. If anyone is going to buy Smartcarry I'd recommend going through him (just do an Ebay search for "invisible holster") because it's slightly cheaper for an identical product. Maybe I'll try one again some day now that I have a subcompact XD-9 with a shorter grip length.

brad cook
 
I've had one for awhile & use it when I have to carry with shirt tucked-in (I have a "tucker" holster, but it just doesn't suit me). I think it is not just the belly geography, but the drape of the trousers as well. The SmartCarry needs a bit of looseness/hanging in front. If the pants are tight either because of a lower tummy bulge or because you buy your pants tight, you're going to print more than with a looser fit.

For me, it's not an "everytime" holster; but when needed, it's pretty darn good.
 
I think it is not just the belly geography, but the drape of the trousers as well. The SmartCarry needs a bit of looseness/hanging in front. If the pants are tight either because of a lower tummy bulge or because you buy your pants tight, you're going to print more than with a looser fit.

My pants are generally not tight. I've tried it with all kinds of pants. It worked with a few pairs but I needed it to work with all pairs. It didn't for me with the gun I was carrying at the time.

brad cook
 
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