So I ask this what is your competency level?

[Chuck R.]

Chin/throat area is too low for the medulla. The aim point for the medulla from the front is just under the nose and above the lip. The entire brain stem area (medulla, mid brain, Pons) from the front is the triangle made by the point being the upper lip up to the eyes.

I've heard the roughly same area called "ocular cavity". I put a target together to practice these shots:


Basically a "Challenge Targets" knockdown, but with the 8" center of mass plate replaced by a smaller "triangular-ish" plate that sets behind the face. Requires an "ocular cavity" hit to take it down. It's a fun target to shoot as some guys go through some rds before they take it down. Especially when working "fail to stop drills" and they put two center mass with no effect, then transition to the head.

Chuck

 

[huntsman]

I'm not good "enough" never will be good "enough".

 

[taliv]

Rough day. Did ten 10-5-5 drills in a row from holster and had two or three out of the black almost every time. Geez. Times were 3.25-4.6 secs. Ugh.

On the positive side I was placing the black bullseye paper over the center of an idpa -0'zone and for the first eight drills I didn't have any holes outside the -0. (Ie 80 rounds in about 32 secs with 8 draws) but the last two got sloppy.

 

[harrygunner]

Self-defense is my only concern. Often check consistency. The trainer for a police department I trained with said the first round shot, cold at the range, is your self-defense competence upper limit.

Typical for me over the years, fifty shots at 10 yards with different kinds of ammo, I'll do the same with a hundred rounds.



For regular training, the group I train with, where we move, draw and shoot will beat on you if the group is greater than 6" in diameter at 10 yards.

Alone, I practice drawing on a 8" round steel plate at 30 yards. That helps a lot. If the situation arises, I want rounds on the perp as best I can.

 

[winn01]

7 yds 9mm


25 yds same gun
I just started shooting USPSA shoots this year. I would say the 25 yds shoots are fast took 10 to 15 seconds

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I'd be happy if I could shoot like a girl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EbNTnLka3T0

 

[Tactical Lever]

Of course. But I did not see a point to aim at either, so I figured it was an approximation.

And then again, maybe cardboard people are built a little funny?

 

[strambo]

I've heard the roughly same area called "ocular cavity". I put a target together to practice these shots:


Basically a "Challenge Targets" knockdown, but with the 8" center of mass plate replaced by a smaller "triangular-ish" plate that sets behind the face. Requires an "ocular cavity" hit to take it down. It's a fun target to shoot as some guys go through some rds before they take it down. Especially when working "fail to stop drills" and they put two center mass with no effect, then transition to the head.

Chuck

That's a great target! Also check these out: http://www.letargets.com/content/tac-man-3d-torso-shell-target.asp

I have 3, they last a long time.

 

[Tactical Lever]

Chin/throat area is too low for the medulla. The aim point for the medulla from the front is just under the nose and above the lip. The entire brain stem area (medulla, mid brain, Pons) from the front is the triangle made by the point being the upper lip up to the eyes.

Sorry, meant to reply to your quote in my previous post. I did not see a nose or aiming point that would approximate that shot, but I figured it was a rough point to aim at.

 

[Chuck R.]

That's a great target! Also check these out: http://www.letargets.com/content/tac-man-3d-torso-shell-target.asp

I have 3, they last a long time.

Now that is flat out cool, I like the 3D "box" for practicing aiming points for non-frontal shots. I've worked this with homemade targets, and making the boxes was a PITA.

How do they mount on firing strips??? I may get one of these to add more realism to my knockdown.

Chuck

 

[Captcurt]

How much time? What are the other conditions?

IMHO 10" at 30' isn't hard, unless you start ratcheting up your conditions. I routinely shoot 8" plates at 7 yards with a 1st shot under 1.3-1.4 seconds from an OWB holster.

That's like saying an El Presidente drill is relatively easy, unless you're trying to make a "Master" PAR time of 5.3 seconds.

This target is a Failure to Stop drill at 30', from an OWB holster first shot in under 1.5 seconds with splits of .35-45:



IMHO, there's more that goes into competence with a handgun than just group size.

Chuck

I'll Amen this one. I have a friend who is very proficient with rifle or handgun. He even took 2nd place at the police academy, but he needs time. You may be able to shoot golfballs at 21 feet, but can you hit a basketball. 5 times in 3 seconds from the holster?

 

[strambo]

Chuck, they staple on to the furring strips like any other target, they have plastic tabs on the side.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

This is what I strive for, whenever I go to the range. First magazine of the day is always what I have on my hip, fired as quickly as is practical, at 7 yards. On a real good day, there is no flyer. On a worse day there are more than one, and this determines how much carry ammo I use that day to get "back up to snuff." After I'm satisfied, I'll get on to more fun stuff.