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So my wife had a ND....of the worst kind.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by GlowinPontiac, Sep 23, 2008.

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  1. GlowinPontiac

    GlowinPontiac Member

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    The kind where she shot herself in the leg with a .40 S&W Sigma.:what:

    After hearing some strange noises outside and having a few random cars pull up the driveway then back down i had been keeping in on the table next to the bed with a loaded mag but none in the chamber. This was nothing new as i usually keep my snubnose .38 out and she keeps her beretta out and ready as well.

    Turns out she picked up the gun while i was out in the driveway working on my car and was looking it over and she racked the slide then pulled the trigger sending a flat nosed FMJ through her leg a few inches below the knee.
    All i heard outside was a "pop" and her yelling "OUCH" then a few seconds later her screaming for me to get inside right now. she was able to walk down the stairs on her own and was taken to the hospital and released 2 hours later. The bulled missed the bone and any blood vessels. Threre was almost no blood at all.She is doing fine now and will be going back to work in a few days but will be using crutches.

    She knows all about gun safety and usually is the one lecturing me about it! Just goes to show you that one single second of carelesness can lead to something very bad happening. Thank god the bullet did not hit anything vital as a few mm in any direction and it could have shattered bone or severed a major blood vessel.

    The police have the gun now but said i can come down and claim it in a day or two and they were very professional and did not lecture us on how guns are bad or that we should not have them. As the officer handed me her beretta to put in the gun cabinet he acutally commented on how nice my collection of guns was and that he would like to buy a few new ones sometime soon.

    I'm going to go down to the station friday to get the sigma back and then at my wifes request it is being sold ASAP so she can buy the .380 she saw at the gunshop.

    (If its ok with the mods and noone has any objections i can post pictures of the entry/exit wounds if anyone is interested in seeing what kind of damage an accident like this can cause)

    on a side note when the police secured the gun i told them of the beretta and my .38 that were upstairs loaded....they unloaded the beretta but did not even notice the .38 was loaded until the asked me to take it downstairs and put it in the cabinet. He told me he unloaded it but his eyes just about popped out of his head when i swung out the cylinder to show him 5 live rounds in there!
     
  2. VARifleman

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    Glad she's ok.
     
  3. oneshooter

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    Glad that she is going to be alright.

    LESSON LEARNED!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope.:D


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    Livin in Texas
     
  4. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    I'm also glad she is alright.

    You're selling her beretta though? Does she have more or has this turned her off to guns completely?
     
  5. p2000sk

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    To minimize pulic embarrassment, were you able to have your identities made private if a press release was issued?
     
  6. Hk91-762mm

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    I sure hope all works outwell!
    Must have been quite a scare.
    Training traning Traning and double practice --!
    Question -Was it loaded setting in the house -?
    I keep the mag seperate from my gun it only takes a second to slap it home and rack the slide .
    I do hope you Have no problems !
    Good luck!
     
  7. jakemccoy

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    Wow, she got lucky. I'm glad she's ok.

    Did she say why she racked slide? I got the impression you both kept chambers empty.
     
  8. rodregier

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    I can think of a number of possible motivations, but what is her stated reason for wanting the pistol to be sold?

    Just curious...

    (if you feel like sharing and you know).
     
  9. GlowinPontiac

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    TAURUS: Im not selling the beretta. She loves that little gun and would never part with it! im selling the Sigma. She is not turned off to guns she still has her beretta a winchester 12ga and my mossberg 20ga that she has claimed as her own.

    P2000sk : The only press release we found was in the towns online newspaper. THey used her full maiden name and said she was cleaning it at the time. I tried to email/call/write them to tell them their story is wrong but they have absoloutely NO contact info listed. (probably because they write whatever they want wether it is right or wrong)
     
  10. Jim March

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    I'm not a moderator, but I believe such pics are considered on-topic here. It would be irresponsible of us NOT to understand what bullets can do.

    Etiquette might be to link to pics off-site with a warning as to what they are - some ARE squeamish. As both a biker and a gunnie I've deliberately trained myself off of squeamishness of that sort and it's worked out well for at least one emergency.

    What you need to do next is get her a nice DA revolver for now. These have very low rates of accidental discharge for a reason: they can be operated without ever touching the trigger until it's time to fire. There's no "racking", and no question as to whether it's loaded or not - you can see sideways into the cylinder to check for shell rims, or (without pointing the gun RIGHT at you, look at the front of the cylinder and see the actual rounds. To load or unload, you have to disable the gun's functionality by swinging the cylinder out, which locks the trigger and must be done with finger OFF the trigger.

    They're also adjustable in terms of "horsepower levels" - a 357Mag gun can shoot anything from 175ft/lbs energy 38 target ammo up through 800ft/lb stompers in full-house 357, with lots of stops in between at whatever power level you're comfortable with for the weight of gun you have and your experience level. A heavier gun will take you further up the horsepower scale faster.

    A K or L-frame S&W 357 or a Ruger GP100 (with optional smaller grips if need be) would work very well.
     
  11. GlowinPontiac

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    She racked the slide because she did not know that there was any ammo in the house for the gun as she thought we shot it all last time we went out but i saved a mag full as i dont like having a gun around with no ammo. She wants to sell the gun because she thinks it is jinxed. She also has her eye on a used .380 that she wants so i might sell the sigma to a friend and buy her the .380 as it is a bit better than the .22 she carries now. (its going to be interesting explaining what happened to the guys at the gunshop though when she comes in saying she shot herself but still wants to buy another gun!)

    JIM: I do have a K fram .357 but she says its too big for her so when she wants to carry a wheel gun she uses my J fram .38
    Recoil is no problem for her she does not really even complain firing 12ga slugs.
     
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    Glad to hear that your wife is well.

    Doc2005
     
  13. loneviking

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    Ouch indeed! Been there, done that!

    Give your wife a few days and she may change her mind about wanting to get rid of the Beretta. That, or suggest that she switch to a 38/357 revolver as they tend to have fewer problems with AD/ND.

    Remind her that the AD wasn't the guns fault---it did exactly what it was designed to do!
     
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    Glad She is ok & thank god it wasn't a JHP.
     
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    I pray for her speedy recovery and for her humble understanding that the gun wasn't jinxed.
     
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    jakemccoy - I'd be glad that she doesn't want to sell/dispose of ALL the guns. Like it or not, people can have negative reactions to things that hurt them. You can always get a different gun, perhaps a different model that doesn't have the connotations that this one does now.
     
  17. Cmdr. Gravez0r

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    Remind me never to use FMJ for defense.
     
  18. GlowinPontiac

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    She thinks it is jinxed because one of our friends bought it and then a few months later enlisted in the army and we have not seen him in months and now she just shot herself with it.

    Yeah...if it was a hollowpoint it would have really torn her leg up! but it really proves that fmj does not do much damage at all. Hell she was able to walk down stairs after that went through her leg!
     
  19. Maelstrom

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    If you rack the slide on a pistol with an empty magazine it should lock back.

    The fact that it went into battery should have been clue one that it was loaded.

    Secondly, anyone who has ever chambered a round knows there is a very distinct feeling over racking an empty weapon.

    Are you absolutely sure she's being completely honest with you? I'm not faulting her. It's human nature to place blame away from themselves. It would probably explain why she wants to sell the gun as well. She's moved the blame to the gun.
     
  20. jakemccoy

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    I hear you. I've never shot myself. So, I can only imagine.

    OK. Before, I thought she was blaming the gun for it going off.
     
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    Keep the booger picker off the bang button! She'll never do that again!
     
  22. mr.trooper

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    Good grief people... they are not selling the Beretta.
     
  23. kostner

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    Have always worried about ND's around my house because there is always loaded guns. Everyone in the house knows a lot about firearms but I am the only who is armed 24/7. And you have all heard "out sight out of mind". Will say a prayer for her.
     
  24. Poor East Texan

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    I've had guns for 30+ years. I've had one AD in that time. Blasted a .45FMJ through a wall in a rent house as I had been fighting feeding problems and just forgot about the round in the chamber.

    Maybe mag disconnects ARE good for something.....

    Glad the wife is okay and didn't turn anti by this!
     
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    First, glad that she's OK (well, you know what I mean). Glad she came out of it with relatively minor wounds considering what could have happened.

    That said, I second Jim March's post - I think that one of the best things one can do in these cases is post pics of the injury. We can all read the posts detailing the incidents, but seeing the actual, real results is something even more motivating. I also agree that they should be hosted somewhere else and a link posted, so as not to force those who really don't want to (or can't stand to) stomach them to see them.
     
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