Sold all my 'small' CCW pistols

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late to the party as well...........

been carrying a "J" frame smith for over 25 years now while off-duty. I see no reason to change and to throw 25 years of practice and muscle memory away since i have been more or less "married" to the snub and pocket carry.

i have entertained thoughts to go to an auto............much like this discussion....entertaining.

Problem is, i have already been accustomed to pocket carry of the snub and years of clothing habits. i am not about to go thru a wardrobe change, costs, and other expendatures this late in the game to conceal a more substantial weapon. Tried that at the start of my career and quickly discovered the benefits of the snub on a poor man's salary vs additional belts, holsters, and dressing around a weapon.

Off course back then, there was no internet, autos were not allowed for duty, and shooting schools/handgun courses and "experts" selling you their dogma were far and few.


carry what you wish......you are the only person you have to please........not everyone can walk a mile in your shoes nor would they probably want to.
 
contender said:
late to the party as well...........

been carrying a "J" frame smith for over 25 years now while off-duty. I see no reason to change and to throw 25 years of practice and muscle memory away since i have been more or less "married" to the snub and pocket carry.

i have entertained thoughts to go to an auto............much like this discussion....entertaining.

Problem is, i have already been accustomed to pocket carry of the snub and years of clothing habits. i am not about to go thru a wardrobe change, costs, and other expendatures this late in the game to conceal a more substantial weapon. Tried that at the start of my career and quickly discovered the benefits of the snub on a poor man's salary vs additional belts, holsters, and dressing around a weapon.

Off course back then, there was no internet, autos were not allowed for duty, and shooting schools/handgun courses and "experts" selling you their dogma were far and few.


carry what you wish......you are the only person you have to please........not everyone can walk a mile in your shoes nor would they probably want to.
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Well said.
 
There is a lot of research that has to go into "pocket" .380 pistols. High quality, comfort, accuracy, all those factors have to mesh which finally came together with my choice of the Kahr P380.
The Kahr P380 fits the bill to include its excellent sights.
 
I've got to admit that I didn't read all of the posts on this thread, but I understand where the op is comming from. My training padner and I have been doing some force on force training with airsoft pistols. we both shoot master class in I.D.P. and I have been an NRA instructor for 15 years, but even at ranges of 5-15 yards we have found that hitting a moving human while trying not to get shot is hard. we miss compleetly 25-35% of the time and periferal hits are the norm. it certainly leads one to believe that in a self defence situation more rounds that pack more punch is a good thing.
 
Peace of mind is good! For me, I want a weapon that fills my hand, without being overly large, with a grip that allows me to really lock onto the weapon, because gunfights tend to happen at contact distance. For this reason, when I have a choice, I would rather not carry a double-stack service pistol. (In uniform, I must carry a double-stack .40; no choice.)

When I do carry a P229 concealed, on my own time, it is an SAS version, which gives very little traction for an opponent to use against me, but likely as not, I carry revolvers on my own time, though they are not tiny J-frames, but SP101 or larger. My fingers and thumbs being relatively short and skinny, an SP101 fills my grip quite well, performing more like a service handgun that a pocket pistol, especially the 3" version, which has a bit more sight radius and more-forward balance.

If an SP101 is the biggest gun I am carrying, I will carry two or sometimes even three of them, to be able to stay in the fight longer. If a 4" revolver is the "primary" weapon, I will usually have a snubby with me, too. Peace of mind IS a good thing.
 
The 642 for me, while lacking in capacity at 5, it is light and easy to conceal and almost 100% reliable (nothings 100%). I have service autos with hi-caps and could conceal them if the need arised. Long gone are my outlaw days and I just don't go or hang around the high risk areas or people anymore. So I'll play the percentages and carry my 5. It may not be enough, but then again you might get hit by a bus and die anyway, your hi-cap gun or my J smith will be smushed into our bodies equally.
 
I seem to recall several years ago the FBI or some other federal or big-name law enforcement organization (NYPD??? LAPD??? Dade Cty Sheriff???) did a study that found that the average total number of rounds fired in the average gunfight in the US is 3.4

Why would I need 18 shots? Spray and pray?
 
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I think people are misunderstanding why you have a pocket gun for CCW.

You wear it when a larger gun doesn't work with what you're wearing that day. Also, pocket pistols aren't meant to be fun range guns. Most of the pocket nines make your hand hurt like hell in short order. Pocket pistols are for one thing, and one thing only. And, that is to get your bacon out of the fryer.

Most people who conceal carry full-size guns usually don't pass the gun-check test. Just randomly ask them if they have that 40-ounce 1911 strapped on. Most likely they will give you an excuse. "Oh, I was in a hurry." "It wasn't convenient to go back and get it."

Yeah... right.
 
Win, that wouldn't work with me, it's on me. :)
Yes, FBI stats say 3.5 rounds fired, including both sides, certainly. That's an average, meaning many were only one round fired, and many with more than 3.5 rounds fired. I have no idea which type of encounter I may have, and while I hope that I may pass away at a great old age without ever having to fire a round in defense of self or family, I also don't want to die much earlier for a lack of be able to shoot back. Nobody ever complained of having too much ammo in a gunfight, I do believe, but then again, I have been wrong before. I will continue to carry a larger sidearm with more ammo, maybe even a back up gun, and some will laugh, point, say the jokes' on me, and I'll smile, wave, and keep on keeping on. Everyone has their thing. :)
 
I carry a J Frame Smith (.38, .32) or a Glock 36. I have reloads onboard and am confident with all 3. Why a .32? It fits, is accurate and will kill you.
 
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I have 3 PISTOLS in MY CC ROTATION .
SEECAMP 32. ALWAYS
SW MP 40 C.CAR GUN
RUGER SP101 357 MAG
I FEEL THIS IS ENOUGH FIRE POWER FOR ANYTHING I WILL RUN IN TO,
 
The best firepower for self defense would be a mounted GAU-8 Avenger gatling gun... of course, it's a little expensive and slightly heavy for carry (620 pounds.)

The best gun is the one you have. 99% of the usefulness of a gun are it's qualities while NOT being used -- does it holster nice, clean easily, weigh little enough to carry, not get snagged... whatever keeps it on you, instead of in the gun safe. If you're willing and like to carry full sized, do it.

A rifle has much more firepower than a pistol -- yet few will carry a rifle for self defense.
 
my opinion is to get training practice, practice, practice because two or more well placed shots are better than two or more missed shots
 
I think many of us don't think of where some other people live or travel.
The difference in being prepared could be drastic.
Most places in Wisconsin a 5 shot .38 would be more than enough.
Chances are it will be used to put down an injured deer before anything more confrontational. Not that I recommend illegally shooting a deer. That is the job of the DNR or Sheriff.
Now on the other hand if your travel requires you to unknown places. Well the comfort level may be a nice 1911 or Browning HP and possibly a B.U.G.
When on a trip west years ago I was compelled to take a Glock 20 and 640 Smith. The 10 mm stayed in the fanny pack in the van .38 in a 9R Bianchi.
Think geography and local environment when planing your trek. Always be prepared like the BSA motto.
 
I only have one caliber of handgun that isn't a .22LR and I hope that the ten rounds in the magazine will be sufficient but if not I have an additional magazine on standby. However, I used to carry a CZ75B both open and concealed depending on the days activities.
 
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Here's the thing: everyone who takes the time to post on forums like these is a gun enthusiast. That doesn't mean that they know what they are doing. Take a stroll over to youtube and watch some of the gun videos. MANY of those posters barely know which is the dangerous end of the gun. I laugh at the guy who maxed out his credit card at the BlackHawk website and now thinks he's an "operator" We all know what a mall ninja is and laugh at them. Problem is that mall ninjas are members of this board, and like to pass themselves off as experts. As a retired cop who has seen what bullets do to a body, a .380 to the chest is gonna put a world of hurt on the receiver and will end the fight 99% of the time. Fact is, the MAJORITY of gun owners will go their entire lives without drawing their weapon, much less firing it. You think a badguy is gonna differentiate between a .380 and a .45? Please. Making statements like "be prepared to put the muzzle of that 380 under the soft palate and have to empty the gun to end the threat" are just plain ludicrous.
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Homerboy, I agree with your comments completely!
 
I carry my g27 with a stock mag because its easier to conseal than witha +2 extention. I feel like 10 rounds of 40 is plenty just being out and about during the day. At night or if I'm going into a bad area I'll carry a g23 mag which puts me up to 23 rounds of 40. If I need more than that, then I picked a bad day to go out.
 
Saw an educational video on the news this year. Perp entered a PD with a pump shotgun and one officer engaged him about 3 feet away with his side arm, holding what appeared to be a Glock (probably a .40) in one hand. Officer got off 6 shots before he dove for cover - they all missed the perp. Lessons learned - aim first, then fire; aim for COM, not head.
 
I don't think a sub compact is an under-gunned scenario. A glock 26 or 27 with 9-11 rounds is a very solid defensive weapon, especially with a glock 17 or 22 mag for a second. I actually shot my glock 26 as well if not better than my 17 as the double recoil spring lightened recoil a great deal. I also have a J frame 340PD and 5 rounds of 357 with 1-2 speed loaders is just fine with me over a 20-30 oz glock. However, I live in the communist state of California and couldn't get a carry permit if my life depended on it. Pun intended.
 
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