Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by LocoGringo, Oct 13, 2020.
Cheek weld isn’t a problem with this stock. I could probably move the current scope a bit forward for more eye relief.
What I’m looking for is scope recommendations.
I used to recommend the nikon monarchs. But they're discontiunued.
but I'll throw a few out to see if this thread will come to life.
how about a meopta meopro? https://www.sportoptics.com/meopta-meopro-524380.aspx
hard to go wrong with a leupold. here are a couple to look at. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362269748?pid=269748
burris signature? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022349618?pid=872757
trijicon huron? https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022102083?pid=962376
Here is an extended front base which allows greater flexibility for scope positioning. It's a basic Weaver extension base.
The VX-Freedom is around $200 and will serve 90%+ of all shooters needs just fine.
This is also an excellent scope, at a great price. This is basically the old Zeiss Conquest made by Meopta. They originally sold for $500+. Cabelas is now selling it again with their badges on it.
I have two of this Leupold....a 3 and a 3i. Paid $400 for the first, then found a deal on the second for $270. I see them advertised for $400 or less all the time. It is one of the best scopes on the market. I also have 2 Burris scopes although not the one you mention. They have been very good, but I would give the edge to Leupold. Let us know what you get.
I have never had eye relief problems with any of the scopes I've mounted on my Argy over the decades. My favorite was the Leupold 3-9x42.
That Tasco and Weaver mounts & rings aren't worthy of your fine rifle. Replace the Weavers with Leupold two piece mounts & low rings (I used Refields. Same as the Leupold, but easier on a 16 year old's wallet. I don't think they make Redfield mounts or rings anymore).
My first choice for scopes for your Argy would be a Leupold 2.5-7x32. Second would a Leupold 3-9x42, 3.5-10x42 or 4.5-16x42, something along those lines.
I would not put a cheap scope, mount or rings on that beautiful Argy.
One detail that impacts scope location is length of pull. If the LOP is too long, the shooter may not be able to move the scope far enough to the rear.
I keep hearing good things about the Meoptas also. I've got one of those on the way to try out. They're something to look at at least. The 3-15x44 I've got on the way would probably not be suitable for a long action though.
My eyes really like them
I agree with your assessment of the current scope/mount arrangement. It hurts my heart that such a cheap scope is sitting atop the rifle. The original scope that was mounted had the outline of a rhino on it and no name and at a critical moment I was ready to shoot a deer, it fogged up (probably fortunate for me as I was inexperienced at field dressing and actually checking in process...probably early teens at the time). I decided to change the scope, but didn't know ANYTHING about scopes other than 4-12 power was bigger (better) than 3-9 power. Oh well, live and learn.
I am curious why you would choose such low power for your first choice for a 30-06 with a 28" barrel.
Elk in heavy cover, good eye box, wide field of view, optical clarity trumps magnification and I know from personal experience those scopes can be mounted with low rings. Last, but not least, that barrel would lose 4 to 6 inches to make for a more practical hunting rifle
I understand your reasoning, but are you suggesting I alter the rifle?
My purpose of changing scopes is to mount something worthy of the rifle and take advantage of what the rifle is as built. I'm not chopping the barrel my grandfather put on the rifle.
I understand the rifle isn't the most practical. Honestly, I'm not sure why my grandfather built it with such a long barrel other than to try to take advantage of a full powder burn for a 30-06 (I'm guessing). I don't even know what the twist rate is of the barrel to optimize bullet weight. I understand the process is relatively easy, I just haven't done it.
You don't have to alter the rifle. If it were mine and I wanted to put it to use, I would seriously consider shortening the barrel. A 28 inch barrel in 30-06 is to squeeze as much velocity out of the round as possible. In a practical sense, that only matters when trying to stay supersonic out to 1000 yards or so.
However, the rest of the rifle (including barrel profile) isn't optimized up for shooting at 1000 yards. It's a hunting rifle. Not that you couldn't do so if you wanted and there's no reason you shouldn't. It's just that today, there are better options to do so.
Anyway, my suggestions are only to give you another perspective to consider. If you'd rather install a scope with greater magnification, go for it. It might work better than what I suggested. But you won't know until you go shoot the rifle which will be more interesting and educational than any gun forum.
Classic rifles, should have classic scopes.
Unfortunately Leupold isnt making gloss scopes at the moment ( custom shop is down ).
If matte doesnt bother you, vx3i in 3.5-10x.
Its what I have on my .30-06.
They aint perfect but are usable, esp if you are a set and forget type ( I am ).
The new Freedom VX series just doesnt look good on old rifles IMHO.
Seems as though everybody else is too, or those w gloss scopes seem to think. Prices on a certain auction site are often ridiculous.
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