Hello THR! I am considering getting another glock, I already have a glock 30 but I would like something a bit smaller as well. I searched the internet but nothing substantial came up. I would like to know if there is any considerable difference between glock 26 ballistics and glock 27 ballistics. Both guns have very short barrels, and most ballistic charts provide information for much longer barrels. So really, this is a question regarding 9 vs 40 in shorter barrels. Thanks!
Sorry, another caliber war, g26 vs g27
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Nushif
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Since you can afford ore ammo to practice with for your Glock 26, probably ... my choice would be that.
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jon, i have a G30 and a G26 as well. What I am finding is that I can place two and sometimes three rounds into a target as fast as I can pull the trigger with the 9mm, and almost never with the G30. I wonder if the G27 would be a bit unruly in rapid fire exercises, there's not much to hold onto.
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What is it about you glock owners that prevents you from posting CALIBERS, even in a 'caliber' thread?
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Information on stopping power does not seem to be very definitive. With a hot 9mm cartridge (e.g. Cor Bon +P), my impression from the literature is that one would get the same or better stopping power as an average .40. Correct me someone if I'm wrong, but I would think recoil would be less with a hot 9mm because the bullet weight is less.
Nushif
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We could sit here all day posting calibers, penetration, "stopping power" whatever you want, but frankly it's a bit of an overdiscussed and relatively moot point when it comes to any service caliber used in active wars.
Just my two cents on that. the ballistics don't matter much when you can consistently hit the mysterious "Bad Guy" repeatedly where you want him.
Just my two cents on that. the ballistics don't matter much when you can consistently hit the mysterious "Bad Guy" repeatedly where you want him.
I've got a 27. It hurts a bit at first, but you get used to it quickly and then it's fine. It's also very accurate and is a lot of gun for that size range. A bit thicker than some other super-subcompacts, but perfectly sized for carry for really anyone who can wear a belt and shirt.
carbuncle
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I've shot a 26 quit a bit and rented 27s several times, the 27 was a bit punchy but not unmanageable or unpleasant. The 26 is a little champ, though: it's actually a fun gun to shoot at the range! I put thousands of rounds through my ex's 26 and never tired of shooting it.
With barrels as short as both guns have, caliber comparisons will devolve to typical 9 vs .40 banter, in my personal opinion you can't go wrong with either one as long as you know where to put the shots.
With barrels as short as both guns have, caliber comparisons will devolve to typical 9 vs .40 banter, in my personal opinion you can't go wrong with either one as long as you know where to put the shots.
Both .40 and 9mm attain peak pressures early. They don't lose a heck of a lot from a short barrel, as compared to .45 or .357. So I'd think 9 rounds of .40 > 10 rounds of 9mm.
OTOH, the subcompact GLOCKS have the same issues as any subcompact pistol. They cycle faster than their parent design. The .40 cycles even faster than the 9mm. And the magazine has to push a heaver load of bullets upwards in this shorter time. This makes the G27 particularly prone to limpwrist. Even if you've never in your life limpwristed your other GLOCKS, the G27 might throw you an occasional curve if you get cute with it.
OTOH, the subcompact GLOCKS have the same issues as any subcompact pistol. They cycle faster than their parent design. The .40 cycles even faster than the 9mm. And the magazine has to push a heaver load of bullets upwards in this shorter time. This makes the G27 particularly prone to limpwrist. Even if you've never in your life limpwristed your other GLOCKS, the G27 might throw you an occasional curve if you get cute with it.
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jon86,
i am no expert, but i think that the performance of the major SD calibers (9mm, 40 SW, .357 Sig, 45 ACP) are relatively close to each other provided you are using effective loads.
a good hit with a 9mm is probably as good as a hit with a .45/40/whatever. and a miss is still a miss with both. they will both do their job provided you do yours, and all are equally useless if you are not proficient.
maybe i am wrong. i never have had to shoot someone (hope i never have to) but i am a firm believer in getting a common and accepted SD caliber, gaining proficiency with it, and not worrying too much about the minor variances in the ballistics.
either should serve you well. you have great selections here imho.
i am no expert, but i think that the performance of the major SD calibers (9mm, 40 SW, .357 Sig, 45 ACP) are relatively close to each other provided you are using effective loads.
a good hit with a 9mm is probably as good as a hit with a .45/40/whatever. and a miss is still a miss with both. they will both do their job provided you do yours, and all are equally useless if you are not proficient.
maybe i am wrong. i never have had to shoot someone (hope i never have to) but i am a firm believer in getting a common and accepted SD caliber, gaining proficiency with it, and not worrying too much about the minor variances in the ballistics.
either should serve you well. you have great selections here imho.
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easyg
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The G27 does kick a bit harder than the G26, but that's to be expected....after all, it's firing a more powerful round.
There's no such thing as a free ride.
And while it does kick a little bit more, it's not painful in the least.
Nor is it difficult to shoot accurately.
The G26 can equal the G27 in energy but only when using very hot 9mm+P ammo.
And if you plan to use very hot 9mm+P ammo with any real frequency, then why not just step up to the G33?
After all, the .357Sig is essentially a super hot 9mm round...but with a G33 you would be shooting a handgun designed to take a steady diet of .357Sig.
Yes, they cycle a little faster than the larger Glocks....but the engineers at Glock designed the springs to compensate.
Personally, I've never seen anyone ever "limpwrist" a subcompact Glock.
There's no such thing as a free ride.
And while it does kick a little bit more, it's not painful in the least.
Nor is it difficult to shoot accurately.
The G26 can equal the G27 in energy but only when using very hot 9mm+P ammo.
And if you plan to use very hot 9mm+P ammo with any real frequency, then why not just step up to the G33?
After all, the .357Sig is essentially a super hot 9mm round...but with a G33 you would be shooting a handgun designed to take a steady diet of .357Sig.
No, the subcompacts are not more prone to "limpwristing".
Yes, they cycle a little faster than the larger Glocks....but the engineers at Glock designed the springs to compensate.
Personally, I've never seen anyone ever "limpwrist" a subcompact Glock.
I have not shot a G27, however the G26 is a fantastic gun to shoot.
Based on how my G20 feels with a .40 conversion barrel, I don't think I would want a subcompact .40 for the simple fact I'm sure I could be more acurate and faster with the 9mm
Based on how my G20 feels with a .40 conversion barrel, I don't think I would want a subcompact .40 for the simple fact I'm sure I could be more acurate and faster with the 9mm
Runningman
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Got to say this has not been my experience at all. I've had a Glock 27 more than a dozen years and and Glock 33 a few years. I've had zero malfunctions with both. I've had people repeatedly limp wrist jam my G17 and G34 that never had a problem with the G27 or G33.
wow6599
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Flip a coin.........
As far as limpwristing goes, my 27 has been more reliable than my 23. Both are plenty reliable, the 27 is just more so and has seen more rounds to boot.
Also I just like it better. The 23 only made carry rotation over the 27 because of the Trijicons. Extra four rounds didn't hurt either.
Also I just like it better. The 23 only made carry rotation over the 27 because of the Trijicons. Extra four rounds didn't hurt either.
I choose 40S&W over 9mmP for one main reason. Should any of these "magic" hollow point not expand then at least with the 40S&W will make a much bigger hole and hopefully stop the BG better.
I own three 40S&Ws including a Glock26. I shoot all of them well enough.
I own three 40S&Ws including a Glock26. I shoot all of them well enough.
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Personally, if it's not a 45, I'll carry the 9mm. I love them both. I've owned a few 40's and have a USP Expert, but no matter what I do, I go back to the 9mm and 45. Federal HST is a pretty darn good defensive round and brings the 9mm up a notch.
I shoot the 40 well. I took it along with a number of others to the range yesterday since it hadn't been out in a while. Again, I just couldn't force myself to enjoy it. My times are slower than with 9mm and 45, which may be a training thing, but it's just not for me. If you shoot them both equally, there's no reason not to go for the bigger round.
I shoot the 40 well. I took it along with a number of others to the range yesterday since it hadn't been out in a while. Again, I just couldn't force myself to enjoy it. My times are slower than with 9mm and 45, which may be a training thing, but it's just not for me. If you shoot them both equally, there's no reason not to go for the bigger round.
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Model 27.
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The Lone Haranguer
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I had a .40-caliber G27, mostly because of its very attractive price ($299 used with both magazines, box and papers), but I disliked its bark and bite and sold it.
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easyg
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Guilty as charged.
For the Glock subcompacts:
G26 = 9mm Para
G27 = .40S&W
G29 = 10mm Auto
G30 = .45ACP
G33 = .357Sig
G36 = .45ACP slim
G39 = .45GAP
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