Sorry, another caliber war, g26 vs g27

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Some background towards my statement:

I had purchased some of the original GLOCK G22 mags with the original 10-coil spring, for a G27. When my friend shot these mags, the gun jammed every time. For me, they worked fine for my normal shooting grip, but I could fairly easily make them jam by intentionally limpwristing.

So, doing some research, I found out some relavant info. At one point, G22's were recognized to have issues with jams, particularly when flashlights were attached to the rails. The flashlights prevented frame flex, and caused the guns to cycle a tad faster. Note: this was not a problem with G17's. GLOCK issued an 11 coil mag spring to fix this issue. Evidently, a subcompact G27 cycles fast enough for this to be a pretty major issue, despite having nowhere to hang a flashlight.

Replacing the mag springs made them more reliable for my friend. But I can still limpwrist this gun pretty easy with any mag, even with the stock 9 round mags. I can't limpwrist my G21. I even had a single unintentional jam with the G27 using a stock 9 round mag. And that was a little disappointing. But that's besides the point.

The point is, the slide will cycle faster on the subcompact .40, and the mag springs will be performing that much closer to the edge, as a result.

I seem to recall a thread by another poster, a couple weeks ago, that supported this line of thinking. The guy had some jams using G22/23 mags in his G27. He contacted GLOCK, and he was told that G22/23 mags are not officially guaranteed to feed properly in the subcompacts. IOW, if a G27 is not working 100% with 13/15 round mags, but is working 100% with 9 rounders, then GLOCK considers the gun to be functioning correctly and not in need of warranty repair. Maybe someone here has better search skills than I?
 
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Yeah my otherwise flawless 40-9 barrel for my 27 hates it when I use the 33 round magazines, I'm positive it's because I end up putting pressure on the thing.
 
I have never heard of function issues with a 27 or 26. I would say go with the 26. 9mm is cheaper, will be easier to shoot, IF you are giving up anything ballistics wise it isn't enough to worry about. You can get good performing loads to work out of each.

Don't get too wrapped up in the caliber thing. The most important things are mindset, training and your performance, not the bullet's performance.
 
This ^^^

Either will do, but the 26 is the Honda accord of carry pistols, IMHO. Years of boring reliability. Take the cheap ammo and go shoot the thing. All other things being equal, you'll have less fatigue if you ever take a high round count class with the 26, FWEIW.
 
The 26 will not cost you as much to practice with, its recoil is less, promoting more controlled shooting, probably giving you more hits where you want them on the target. As for the caliber difference, what will a .40 stop that a 9mm wont, given that shot placement, bullet construction, penetration are equal?
 
I wanted a 27 (subcompact .40) but got a 26 (subcompact 9mm) because a good deal came up on one. Afterwards, another good deal came up on a 23 (compact .40). After shooting that I was glad my baby glock was a 9mm. The .40 was just too snappy. I love 9mm and .45acp but could never get used to the .40. Maybe I didn't give it enough time and maybe I subconsciously didn't like adding yet another caliber, but I will be sticking to the pewny 9mm and big .45 :)
 
I'm betting you had too much hand on the magazine instead of the grip.
And probably no magazine sleeve either.
Yeah my otherwise flawless 40-9 barrel for my 27 hates it when I use the 33 round magazines, I'm positive it's because I end up putting pressure on the thing.
Even if you push the magazine a hard as you can, what's wrong with that? It should still work. I don't understand how people believe this voodoo. Every gun with a finger extension on the floorplate would be suspect, if that were the case. And anyone who put the offhand on bottom of the grip would be unwittingly willing their gun to malfunction.

The mag does move around a bit, but the gun should feed throughout the entire range of movement without any issue. And if it didn't, it would be a design flaw, not user error.

The reason a 33 round mag is less likely to be reliable in a G26 is because it cycles faster. And that means the window of time where the mag springs must move that half pound of bullets up into proper position is just a hair shorter.
 
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I've got both.
IMO it is noticeably easier to shoot the 26 versus the 27 if not using a pinky rest magazine extension.
If you put a Pierce pinky rest magazine extension on the magazine the difference seems less.
With the magazine pinky rest I shot them and compared 2nd shot follow up time.
The model 26 had a bike tube grip enhancer, the 27 had AGRIP.
I used the hottest round I had available in the 26: Winchester 127 +P+
I used the "common" white box Winchester 180 JHP in the 27
I put a 6'' Shoot & See circle in the center of a B27 target and placed it 6 yards (18 feet) away. I ran several "double tap" sets with each pistol. I only counted the set if both shots hit the 6'' circle.
The average for the 26 was .51 sec
The average for the 27 was .48 sec
There was a difference in grip, plus the 9mm had the hottest load while the 40 had a regular load. I compared using the ammo I would actually carry in the pistols.
Other than the fact that I'm slow ;) (which was nothing I didn't already know :rolleyes:) I learned that I could (depending on load) shoot the 40 about as quickly as the 9.
If I had used 165 Ranger T in the 40 the time would have been different.
The Winchester 180 JHP clocks 965 fps for a "power factor" of 174
The Ranger T 165 gr. averaged 1,116 fps for a "power factor" of 184
The difference in recoil between the 180 JHP and the 165 Ranger T is noticeable. I like the Ranger T, but in my 27 I feel (know) that the 180 JHP is a better choice for control.
My point is, the 40 is going to kick harder than the 9, but the difference can vary depending on load selection.
I did not chrono the Ranger T in the 26, but 1,200 for the 127 gr. bullet would be a reasonable estimate*. That would produce a "power factor" of about 152.
(*The 124 +P Ranger T averaged 1,094 out of a Kahr PM9)
 
The Glock mini frame is made for the 9x19mm cartridge. The recoil is quite mild and you get 10+1 capacity with the short magazine. The light slide and double recoil spring assembly make it a very nice shooting gun.

Both the 26 and 27 accept magazines from their larger versions.

My vote is for the 26 for faster followup shots. If you can handle the recoil of the 27, then by all means get it.
 
Thanks to all who replied; I think I am going to save my pennies for a glock 26
 
I'm amazed no one mentioned you can turn a G27 into a G26 with a $100 conversion barrel and $10-20 /9mm magazine.

You can't turn a G26 into a G27.
IMO a great reason to get the G27 over the G26.

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9mm G27
 
As in any thread of this sort, there will never be any consensus. I chose the G26, believing that, in a relatively small handgun I would enjoy more accuracy and slightly (1 round) more capacity, with more than adequate stopping power. I've got three Glocks and the G26 is the one I carry most often.
 
Most ballistic numbers for 9mm and 40 S&W are based off of 4" barrels. The loss of .5" isn't that much to get excited over.

I would go with the Glock 26. It's cheaper to practice with. Easier to control. and the extra 1mm in diameter you gain from going to the 40 vs. the 9mm is MUCH less important than shot placement.
 
Why, the .45GAP, of course. Power upped one more step, and pretty much the same size as the 26 or 27.
Maybe.
But the G39 (the subcompact .45GAP) sacrifices a lot of magazine capacity....

With standard magazines:
G26 = 10+1
G27 = 9+1
G33 = 9+1
G39 = 6+1


IMO, one of the main reasons to choose an autoloader is for the increased capacity over the old six-shooter.
 
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