Spray and pray.....drives me nuts.

[biscuitninja]

Well my expereince is a little different. I grew up with rifles. So slow and steady wins the races when you're "looking" at something 100-1000 yards away. I will admit its fun to "dump" the magazine (Thompson and Mosin) but you have to work up to a smoothness to do it right. Especially with a bolt action.

I will say you have to be able to put yourself into a battle scenario. If you can't concentrate without extreme quiet how will you concentrate in a real situtation? Ever go out to a shooting (sniper) school? Those guys yell, jump up and down set off small charges (firecrackers) all around you just to preturb you and get you to miss. Its annoying, VERY annoying, but you adapt and overcome and you drill the target.

as for range safety, you know what they say about honey over vinagar (sp?).
-bix

 

[woodybrighton]

only ever visited a range in florida twice when my brother was out nursing stateside spent the day plinking with his sks and a marakov winding him up cause I shot better with both of them than he could and he'd owned them for a year Identical twin so zero worked more or less.
anyway bloke turns up with brand new sigg pistol drool blazes off a magazine gets a few hits starts loundly complaining the sights are off.
little conversation bit of work on his stance grip and actually using the sights rounds all start hitting the target amazes me somebody would spend all that cash on a handgun and not get some shooting lessons

 

[Tom Servo]

Thanks Mannix, that is what I suspected but we all know what happens when we ASSUME anything. Still unable to access the link though.

Sorry, but I've blocked Internet Explorer from my site. Firefox, Opera and the Mac browsers will display it fine.

There's a difference between rapid-fire and spray-and-pray. Having worked as a RO for a few months now, I can tell the difference. I also understand why some other ranges ban rapid-fire altogether. (A local range banned me for doing controlled pairs once, because I'd missed the tiny "NO RAPID FIRE" sign out front.)

If your shots are staying on the paper, blast away! I've got a regular who bump-fires a Glock 17. Sure, it gave me real pause at first, but the guy can shoot, so fine by me. He buys ammo from us, too, so all the better

The problem comes with folks who a) damage the facilities, or b) present a real danger. At no point should bullets be hitting the floors, walls or conveyors, nor should anyone be shooting at someone else's targets.

Personally, ammo's too expensive for me to go Rambo everytime I shoot

 

[RPCVYemen]

To tell the truth - while I may make inappropriate judgments in my head - if someone is shooting at the range, if they are not unsafe, it's really none of my business. To me, that's part of shooting at a public range.

I am more annoyed with people who shoot a rifle with some high tech looking scope at the 50 yd range - when there is a perfectly good 100 yard range a few bays down. But you know what? They have as much right to be there as I do.

In fact, I am usually happy to see them there. I shoot at a municipal range that is somewhat underutilized. My guess is that the more folks that use, the more likely they are to be able to keep the range open - and maybe extend the hours! The times when it's just me and the RO make me nervous - it's pretty expensive for the county to keep the range open for one shooter. The more the merrier - if they are safe.

Mike

 

[qajaq59]

I am more annoyed with people who shoot a rifle with some high tech looking scope at the 50 yd range - when there is a perfectly good 100 yard range a few bays down. But you know what? They have as much right to be there as I do.

No offense meant, but you want to be careful judging people. I shoot at 3 inch targets at 50 yards, both with and without a scope. Why? Because I am physically unable walk any further then that. And at times even the 50 yards is a painful jaunt. So if you notice a guy who looks like he is struggling to get to the 50, you might want to offer to bring his targets up to, and back from, the 100 yard range. If it happens to be me I will very likely say, " Yes, that's very kind of you, and thanks."

 

[RPCVYemen]

No offense meant, but you want to be careful judging people.

Thanks - I hadn't thought of that. I reign in my judgement because other folks have as much right to a public range as I do. But you're right, I hadn't thought of people being unable to walk 50 yards.

Mike

 

[10 Ring Tao]

I make sure to whip out some 1 MOA groups with the M1A or perfect mozambiques, in between mags of bumpfired AK fun or testing the trigger reset on the glocks.

Gotta do what you can to prevent soiled depends on the line.

 

[Joe Demko]

Well, at least he did not point the gun in your direction or something else stupid!
I had to yell yesterday at some 20 year old to keep his loaded AK clone on line and not fiddle with his body with that gun 4 feet behind the table.
His response: YOU have to treat me with respect!
Little punk *** was lucky I didn’t stick that thing up his …….

Gee...given his response to your safety concerns, I'd have to conclude that you didn't initially treat him with respect. Now you're here complaining about him and chest-thumping about rectally violating him with his rifle. Chances are, he's somewhere else bellyaching about the busybody old b*****d at the range who insulted him and who is lucky he didn't get a gun shoved up his behind.
Do you think that, just perhaps, if you had phrased your initial concerns to him more diplomatically both of you might now be happier about your day at the range?

 

[wolfman01]

I will not soon forget the comments made by a fellow range shooter when I was visiting my folks a couple of years ago, after I finished trying out their .44 mag revolver - "I wouldn't want to be caught in YOUR back yard." Yeah, mark me down as one who likes to continually improve my accuracy. Cheap ammo or not, I want to know that I'm gonna hit what I aim at if the situation arises, where it's gonna matter. I also like cheap ammo. It means I can practice more.

 

[ihopewewin]

It just sounds like a bunch of guys having fun! Would you rather have them poking holes at the range or causing trouble in the streets like some teenage animals do. When me and my friends go to the range we shoot clays and have a good time. Why worry about what they're doing just shoot in your own lane and let that be it.

 

[Majic]

Public range so you have to deal with the public or get your own personal range.

 

[esmith]

I have expierenced similar situations. One time a guy went to a range thats probably the most fun i have ever gone too with a XD 45 and some ak variant. They shot the AK so many times that they couldn't hold the foregrip with bare hands all in the matter of about 45 seconds. They double tapped the pistol for about 50 rounds as well. I feel more bad for the gun than i do for them.

 

[RPCVYemen]

Gee...given his response to your safety concerns, I'd have to conclude that you didn't initially treat him with respect.

I am with Joe on this one. The times that I have seen someone handling a weapon unsafely, and spoken to them quietly and politely, they usuall act sheepish and thanke. Most folks who break a rule at the range either don't know the rule, or had a momentary lapse.

I have found that most people I have spoken really want to shoot safely.

If you start out bellowing, you'll never find that out. Once you decide to make it a confrontation, the only thing that matters is, "Who wins?"

I had to yell yesterday at some 20 year old to keep his loaded AK clone on line and not fiddle with his body with that gun 4 feet behind the table.

You had to yell? Are you incapable of controlling your emotions? No - you chose to tell because you wanted a confrontation. You wanted to belittle him, and that was more important than teaching him how to hadnle a weapon safely. Was the who rush worth the missed opportunity?

Mike