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Springfield armory pistols

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Mr Bernoulli, Mar 10, 2009.

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  1. Mr Bernoulli

    Mr Bernoulli Member

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    Hey guys how do you like the XD pistols from springfield armory? Umm also what does XD stand for? Are these indestructable like a glock? How is accuracy etc. Give me all details you know. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Mr Bernoulli

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    ok nevermind about the XD it stands for extreme duty but also saw somthing about them being made in croatia? Is this true thought they were american made...
     
  3. Baba Louie

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    Start here
    http://www.xd-hs2000.com/hsarms/news.html

    Whats not to like? Croat polymers w/ safeties galore, rights bought by SA, prices raised accordingly (they were real inexpensive back in 2000 as Croats). Accurate? Yep.
    Reliable? Yep.
    Upgraded, new improved, lemon freshened... well, maybe not lemon freshened but pretty good handguns.
    Find a range nearby that rents them, try one or three out, you might end up buying one.

    Or not.
     
  4. ComradeBurg

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    I carry one with me every day and love the gun.

    Mine is the .45 compact which is the same as the service model but with a shorter handle. Anyways I'll shoot a bullet point of what I like about it.

    - No manual safety to be flipped, so when I pull it out it's ready to go. It does have a back strap safety though which I like. It won't go off unless I'm holding it normally.

    - It has a nice trigger. It's pretty crisp and very consistent.

    - Has a double stack magazine so I can hold more rounds in it. The compact holds 10 + 1 rounds.

    - I like the ergonomics. Everything is easily reachable without having to remove your hand from firing positions.

    - Tearing it down and cleaning it is very easy.

    - It's quite accurate for having a 4" barrel.
     
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    If you dont like an XD because it is Croatian then you better not like Glock, HK, Sig, etc.

    And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know some of these makes are even made in the US now but that just seems like too convenient of an excuse for people these days.
     
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    I prefer the XD .45 compact to the Glock .45s (any of them), but for anything else I'd choose Glock. Just my personal preference.

    jm
     
  8. Just One Shot

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    I have an XD .40 and it is SAWEEEET! ;) Shoots good and is very dependable.

    P.S. I also have American made handguns in my safe.
     
  9. Yosemite**Sam

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    I own a 9mm XD and it's the least accurate and my least favorite firearm. The accuracy of it is just plain horrible. I shoot thousands of rounds each year and I humbley admit that I can shoot. I would never buy another XD even if they were half price.
     
  10. gglass

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    The XD may be eye candy to some, but it is still the same Croatian HS2000 that had a hard time selling when it was a $250 off-brand bargain pistol. It is amazing what Springfield's marketing department has been able to do with this firearm. They've done about as good a job of convincing people that the XD is their own, as they did convincing people that they are a 200 year old firearms manufacturer... In 1974, the Springfield Armory name was used by Robert Reese, who formed a new company to manufacture semi-automatic versions of the M14 rifle. This company, now owned and run by Reese's sons, manufactures firearms under the Springfield Armory name. However, this company is not located near the former armory site and has no connection with the original National Arsenal. It is now located in Geneseo, Illinois. Springfield Inc.'s motto "The Oldest Name In American Firearms" while technically true, is misleading since the company has no connection whatsoever with the original Springfield Armory in Springfield Massachusetts.

    If you compare the XD to Smith & Wesson's M&P (Real American made) line over the last few years, you will see a much more telling story. Since, its introduction in 2006 the M&P has won more than 370 LE agency "issue weapon" contracts. (more new contracts than any other brand in that time period) During that same period of time the XD has only been allowed to be on "approved sidearm" lists by some LE departments, and it has been marketed by Springfield since 2002.

    Hmmm... Why is it that LE agencies are not choosing the XD? It makes you wonder.
     
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    If their policy of not selling parts to consumers also extends to LE armorers, that is a possible explanation.
     
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    "Hmmm... Why is it that LE agencies are not choosing the XD? It makes you wonder."

    Price maybe? Why do you think so many angencies chose Glock over the years?
     
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    that's why it's stamped "Made In Croatia" on the frame, and is stamped on the slide "HS Produkt Karlovac" "Croatia" under the crossed cannons..

    i have no problem with it being made in Croatia.. nor with the M&Ps being made here.. the M&P has a strange trigger, to me.. it's like what a Sigma trigger should be, albeit both are very gritty.. LE departments are getting them at a discount.. that's one of the major reasons why M&Ps are being issued..

    (Springer is selling parts to the public.. check PistolGear.com for an example)

    i love my XD45 Service.. ;)
     
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    Nothing wrong with the Croation made HS2000/XD.
     
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    I own a XD .45 ACP Tactical and haven't had any problems with it of which to speak. In the future I'm hoping to add the subcompact 9mm and either the 9mm Tactical or Service model to the stable.
     
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    I have the xd.45 and LOVE it. Carry it every day. VERY accurate, surprisingly so. I'm knocking cans over with every shot at 75 feet and I'm not really that great of a shot. Glad I went this route instead of the M&P. As for the Croatia part, they just won a war with the guns they make, pretty good record if you ask me, whens the last time we won a war with the guns WE make, WWII ? You don't think your desert eagles are made here do you? Mine said Israel or something like that.
     
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    LE agencies get great deals from manufacturers, and Smith and Glock had heavy LE sales, and then those agencies naturally continue with those contracts especially when the manufacturer agrees to buy back all the old pistols, mags, duty gear, spare parts, etc. at darn near what they paid for them.
     
  18. azmtnbikerxdm

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    I have an XDm 9mm and I love it. Over 2000 rounds through it with hardly any problems. Easy to field strip and I like the 19+1 capacity. It is my favorite gun to shoot.
     
  19. Mr.510

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    XDs ROCK!

    The XDs are an excellent line of pistols. They are extremely reliable and incredibly durable. The ergonomics seem to be great for almost everyone. They are exceptionally accurate for a weapon with the XD's level of reliability. Accuracy and reliability are generally a balancing act: The tighter and more accurate it gets, the less reliable. The looser and less accurate the more reliable. (Think AR vs. AK.) An XD is a lot like an AK in it's reliability. You have to try very, very hard to make one not work. It will eat anything you feel like feeding it: From mud covered steel cased crap to milsurp junk with cosmoline and dents all over it, to bare cast lead made from old wheel weights. From very low powered practice ammo to +P+ and beyond they gobble it up in stride. And yet the accuracy of the XD is still excellent. My 45 Compact is certainly more accurate than I am. In my defense, I've only put about 50k rounds down range in my lifetime so I'm pretty much a total novice with handguns. :rolleyes:

    I too believe the lack of law enforcement use of XDs in the USA is due to Springfield's refusal to sell parts. If it needs work, you gotta send it back to Springfield.... But their customer service department is one of the best. I've yet to hear of Springfield charging a customer to fix an XD, no matter how old it was, what broke, or how it got broken. XDs seem to have a more-or-less unlimited lifetime warranty. I've only got about 4,000 rounds through my XD45 Compact without so much as a hiccup. There are lots of guys with 15k rounds without a malfunction and a few that are past 25k without one. I know one guy that put 10k rounds through an XD45 Service model without even cleaning it! :what: If the XD isn't the most reliable handgun ever produced it's got to be "right there".

    I think most of us already knew that it's not the original Springfield Armory and that this pistol is produced in Croatia. It even says, "Springfield Inc. Geneseo, IL. Made in Croatia" right on the side. My question is: Who cares? I don't care where it was made, who made it, or what name is on it. For me it's exactly the right tool for the job. :D
     
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    http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090309020311823


    I like my glock, but I like my wife's XD9sc also. They're both great guns. The XD has a little more metal and les plastic on it, though. also quite a bit heavier than glock.


    a few other people mentioned the s&w m&p. I had one, and it was definitely a GREAT gun. very accurate, nice trigger. the grittiness went away after about 500-1000 rounds/dryfires. I would definitely buy one again. I actually intended to after I sold it, but the glock was just SO much cheaper, I had to do it. :)
     
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    I have been carrying the XDm 40 as an off duty weapon for the last 8 months I love it, about 20,000 rounds through and not a single hicup
     
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    Just got an XD45 5", wish I could afford to shoot it every day for fun.

    It was accurate with my first clip from a .45 ever, holds 14 (more than my .22 w/aftermarket clip!), and am looking forward to it for a long time. I'm considering reloading equipment just to be able to afford shooting it as much as I want to!

    On a side note, shot my buddy's XD9at the same time, not sure why anyone would bother. 45's equally controllable and far more pleasing to shoot.

    Awesome stuff, $500 at Academy, bought some cheapo rounds and let 'em fly. Looked down and had shot almost 100 rnds just like that. FUN FUN FUN!
     
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    Probably because of

     
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    I personally didn't care for the XD40... My friend and my family felt the same. I literally hated the way it felt. I know I am pretty alone in that view but it just isn't for everyone. I won't deny the gun is very reliable and seems to go bang when you want it to and not when you don't... my only complaint was the feel of the gun because it didn't fit me. I prefer the M&P personally.
     
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    My XD9 is a sweet shooting pistol. My overall favorite in terms of how it fits my hand and overall accuracy. Can't say anything bad about it.
     
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