Stupidity of a 30" barrel

[joed]

So, you blame the barrel for breaking the window?

Sure do, I've done the same pattern of moves in the house with 6 rifles that have no barrels over 26", never a problem. The first time with the 30" barrel and it was just a little to long.

 

[morcey2]

Sure do, I've done the same pattern of moves in the house with 6 rifles that have no barrels over 26", never a problem. The first time with the 30" barrel and it was just a little to long.

I find it hard to believe that you could do it with six rifles at once without a problem, but that when you added the shotgun you lost control.

30" barrel shotguns were never meant as primary home defense weapons.

 

[HKGuns]

the question is so moronic as to not justify an answer

That about sums it up from my standpoint as well.

 

[MachIVshooter]

As has been covered, long tubes certainly have a purpose.

On my upland bird guns, I prefer a 24", as I feel it gives a good balance between portability and swing characteristics, especially with birds that bust up in a flurry and sometimes fly erratically.

Goose guns, however, I would prefer a 28" or 30". But I don't hunt waterfowl.

 

[scythefwd]

A 30" barreled shotgun is great for sporting purposes (hunting, clays, etc). I'd dare say, nearly perfect.

Depends on the hunting environment. In IL, it's slug only. If you're going through brush with a 30" gun, you may never get it around and a shot off on that buck you jumped. Brush always grabs at the worst time. Slug hunting in brush is usually done with shorter barrels, 24" or so.

 

[Ash_J_Williams]

Short barreled shotguns are for home defense, and internet commandos.

A 30" barreled shotgun is great for sporting purposes (hunting, clays, etc). I'd dare say, nearly perfect.

I'm think the implication is that, after a certain distance, the added length doesn't add much in terms of velocity or grouping, but does add weight and size, which is good for balance and, as someone has already said, the "arc" of your swing, but otherwise, is just more metal to deal with.

For my needs, I'll take the shortest barrel legally possible without a tax stamp.

 

[pikid89]

So, you blame the barrel for breaking the window?

Sure do, I've done the same pattern of moves in the house with 6 rifles that have no barrels over 26", never a problem. The first time with the 30" barrel and it was just a little to long.

thats like blaming crimes on guns, spoons on making rosie odonnel fat, and that dang pencil on my bad math grade

 

[Hunterdad]

Sure do, I've done the same pattern of moves in the house with 6 rifles that have no barrels over 26", never a problem. The first time with the 30" barrel and it was just a little to long.

Kinda hard to take the high road after a comment like this.

Maybe, just maybe if you knew what the hell you were doing you wouldn't have had broken the window. I don't know anyone that goes through a house swinging a shotgun with a 30" barrel around. I am seriously beside myself reading your posts. You broke the window.....deal with it.

 

[rromeo]

thats like blaming crimes on guns, spoons on making rosie odonnel fat, and that dang pencil on my bad math grade

Guns don't kill people. Guns kill windows.

 

[rcmodel]

So, I broke a ceiling fan light fixture carrying a 26" barrel 25-06 varmint rifle through the dining room slung on my shoulder.

So what did I do?

Well, it sure as heck wasn't to take a hacksaw to it and make it an 18" 25-06 varmint rifle!!

Like the guy said, You can't fix stupid.

But I could learn I can't carry a 26" barrel varmint rifle through the dining room with it slung on my shoulder.

rc

 

[BeerSleeper]

Not trolling, honest. The reason I consider the 30" barrel stupid is every time I carry a shotgun with that long of a barrel it catches on something. That's why I asked if a 26" barrel wouldn't do. Would you believe I've broken a window in the house because of the long barrel? Turned to pick something up and that barrel went through a window. At that moment I would have loved to have had the guy that invented the 30" barrel standing next to me.

There are so many choices in firearms. So many different actions. Pumps, autos, break action singles and doubles, barrel lengths, stock lengths, and the list goes on. If one particular combination of features does not suit your particular needs, perhaps it is not that the barrel is "stupid", but you have chosen poorly for your application. If I leave the .22 at home, and go plink cans with a 30-06, does that make the 30-06 stupid, or could I have made a better choice?

FWIW, if you simply must call something stupid, I'd choose the window. What did it think would happen, picking a fight with a firearm?

 

[Armored farmer]

sure as heck wasn't to take a hacksaw to it and make it an 18" 25-06 varmint rifle!!

Of course not...that would be stoopid. You take a sledgehammer and a pick-ax and remove the floor. That there will give you plenty of room fer yer barrel.

 

[Strykervet]

My first shotgun was, I THINK a Winchester Model 70 Upland. Not sure how long that barrel was, but it was looooong. It was also a duck shotgun and I hunted dove at that time, but I must admit it was good for hitting dove that flew higher than their buddies. It would get higher velocities and hold a tighter pattern for a given range as well as go farther. Was also good for turkey hunting.

Different tools for different fools I guess. That 18" is a good all around barrel, but for hunting I'd get a 24" on average.

 

[lizziedog1]

It would get higher velocities and hold a tighter pattern for a given range as well as go farther.

Barrel length has little of no effect on shot velocity or pattern.

 

[tshaw]

Mosin Nagant, and put the bayonet on, that'll remind you that infantry was just a Pikeman when he runs out of bullets..

true story lol 481/2 inch gun plus 18.5 inch bayonet 67 inches of reach lol

 

[BigN]

a massive can of worms...

 

[jordan1948]

I bagged a lot more dove with my single shot 34" bbl 12 than I have with my 870 7 shot with an 18.5" bbl..........nuff said.

 

[CajunBass]

What reason does a shotgun need a 30" barrel for? I can't see a reason for it and someone can tell me.

Ok. Let me get this straight. Over 100 years of experience is wrong, because you say it is?

Few years ago I did buy another shotgun, a Mossberg with 18" barrel. Now that's better. I don't even have a problem with a 26" barrel. But to me I'd like to get my hands on the moron that decided 30" barrels were needed on shotguns.

Then I suggest you buy shotguns with shorter barrels. Seems simple to me.

Would you believe I've broken a window in the house because of the long barrel? Turned to pick something up and that barrel went through a window.

I would believe you were so clumsy you broke a window using a long barrel shotgun. I also believe you would have broken it with a baseball bat, a hammer, or anything else you happened to have in your hand, because you were careless.

 

[Sam1911]

Ok, ok,...enough with the "dogpile."

joed didn't know, and now he does. Learn something new every day, right?

(Looks like he might have also learned that how you ask a question is often nearly as important as what you ask... )

Thus concludes the lesson for today.