garyhan
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Another vote for the single-six.
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Suggestions on .22 plinker
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788Ham
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Get yourself a nice Harrington-Richardson 999 revolver. Lift up the rear sight, the barrel drops down, load and shoot, open it back up, the mty's get thrown out, reload, over and over again!
ratt_finkel
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Well I went to the range last night and shot a single six. It was not a good night for me period. But it seemed to shoot high past 7rds. Maybe 4" at 10 meters. Groups were maybe 3"-4" at that distance.
It was a neat weapon. Took me some time to get used to the loading and unloading. After 50 rounds I got pretty proficient though. I never did get used to the grip. I have pretty small hands and it still felt like my left hand was almost pointless
At this point I'm questioning the purchase entirely and diverting the funds towards training. It's been about 6 weeks since I last went shooting and it was not pretty.
It was a neat weapon. Took me some time to get used to the loading and unloading. After 50 rounds I got pretty proficient though. I never did get used to the grip. I have pretty small hands and it still felt like my left hand was almost pointless
At this point I'm questioning the purchase entirely and diverting the funds towards training. It's been about 6 weeks since I last went shooting and it was not pretty.
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Armored farmer
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That's fine...but don't give up on the .22 idea. I think it's the best learning tool/most bang for the buck.
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If you know you're a revolver guy, and you know you want a DA .22, try to make it happen sooner rather than later.
If I had went ahead when I wanted one instead of waiting, I probably would have saved myself at least $200. I also probably could have gotten a Ruger SP-101 in .22, as they were still making them.
I ended up going with a S&W 317, which is a bit out of your price range. I also considered a model 63; would have liked to see it in a 3" barrel, only saw one 5-incher. The 317 is a light gun that admittedly takes practice to shoot well, but I have had zero problems with it.
If you want a DA .22 that is above "mid-grade" (read: Charter, H&R, Taurus on a good day), and doesn't weigh 3 pounds, those two models are about the only game in town from a brand-new standpoint.
I hear a lot of good things about H&R for price vs. performance. I don't think they're available new, and I don't see many at the shows I go to - which doesn't mean they're not out there. Just saying.
If I were to take a chance and really didn't want to cross the $500 mark, I think I would do the Charter Pathfinder. I seem to hear better reports about it than the Taurus 94. I've heard too many "miss" stories on that hit-and-miss model. As has been said, some people love their 94s and you might get a good one. Keyword: might. I have never fired either one of these models.
I think the SA thing would be a PITA to me, I could probably grow to tolerate it but I personally don't want that for a main, every-shooting-trip plinker. For an occasional go at it, that would be fine. Strongly considered the Bearcat and may still get one someday.
Good luck on whatever you decide.
If I had went ahead when I wanted one instead of waiting, I probably would have saved myself at least $200. I also probably could have gotten a Ruger SP-101 in .22, as they were still making them.
I ended up going with a S&W 317, which is a bit out of your price range. I also considered a model 63; would have liked to see it in a 3" barrel, only saw one 5-incher. The 317 is a light gun that admittedly takes practice to shoot well, but I have had zero problems with it.
If you want a DA .22 that is above "mid-grade" (read: Charter, H&R, Taurus on a good day), and doesn't weigh 3 pounds, those two models are about the only game in town from a brand-new standpoint.
I hear a lot of good things about H&R for price vs. performance. I don't think they're available new, and I don't see many at the shows I go to - which doesn't mean they're not out there. Just saying.
If I were to take a chance and really didn't want to cross the $500 mark, I think I would do the Charter Pathfinder. I seem to hear better reports about it than the Taurus 94. I've heard too many "miss" stories on that hit-and-miss model. As has been said, some people love their 94s and you might get a good one. Keyword: might. I have never fired either one of these models.
I think the SA thing would be a PITA to me, I could probably grow to tolerate it but I personally don't want that for a main, every-shooting-trip plinker. For an occasional go at it, that would be fine. Strongly considered the Bearcat and may still get one someday.
Good luck on whatever you decide.
Sniderman
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Rat-finkle,[/B
]IMHO You really can't go wrong with any of these pieces mentioned in these posts.
Since in your post you're obviously quite open minded and looking for a quality plinker. My personal approach would be to haunt the local gunshops, have some brands-models in mind, let them know what you're looking for and check with them often!
It's easy to miss out on a great deal, The good iron goes quickly!:banghead:
In My personal experience, I picked up a Hi-Standard Sentinel Deluxe three years ago, in original box with paperwork for well under $200.00! The sales people know me well, They had just taken it in that day and it never even spent one night in the shop. It's a great shooter that I wasn't looking for but have never regretted.
]IMHO You really can't go wrong with any of these pieces mentioned in these posts.
Since in your post you're obviously quite open minded and looking for a quality plinker. My personal approach would be to haunt the local gunshops, have some brands-models in mind, let them know what you're looking for and check with them often!
It's easy to miss out on a great deal, The good iron goes quickly!:banghead:
In My personal experience, I picked up a Hi-Standard Sentinel Deluxe three years ago, in original box with paperwork for well under $200.00! The sales people know me well, They had just taken it in that day and it never even spent one night in the shop. It's a great shooter that I wasn't looking for but have never regretted.
Hoppes Love Potion
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Cheap and accurate SA .22 revolver? How about the NAA Mini Master, a stainless steel 5-shot .22 Mag with a 4" barrel, around $300.
http://www.naaminis.com/bwmm.html
You can also get it in .22LR.
http://www.naaminis.com/bwmm.html
You can also get it in .22LR.
powwowell
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There are no reasonable priced, dependable, .22lr DA revolvers out there. A good deal on a new S&W 617 is $680. Used S&Ws are hard to find and mostly unaffordable. They have become HOLY relics of the past. They are "PINNED and RECESSED". Now say that again with awe in your voice. S&W fans will pi$$ and moan over the present lack of "fit and finish, the use of MIM parts and the cursed lock". Modern S&Ws are no good. Ruger SP101s in .22 lr, are VERY hard to find. If you find one, it will be priced on the north side of $600. The sights may not be too good, but the SP itself will last for several lifetimes. I've nevereven seen a Colt DA, .22lr revolver.
Avoid the newer Charter Arms DA 22lr. They look good, feel good in the hand, but mine lasted less than 50 rounds. Two chambers were striking the forcing cone. At an angle, even. After the 1st cylinder full, ejection was tough and became nigh impossible. Then something came aloose on the inside!
Taurus 94s should fill the void. But, I know of no one who is happy with theirs. Most of them have had to take a trip to Taurusville. That's in South America. Sometimes it takes a long time to get your gun back from them. Then, sometimes, it still ain't fixed. And, please try the DA trigger pull before buying. The grimace on your face shouldn't be permanent. Replacement spring kits help with the DA pull, but then you will become unhappy, due to light strikes.
The buying public needs, they want, a $300 to $400, .22lr DA Revolver, with a decent trigger pull. Most of us want adjustable sights. Barrel lengths of 2", 3", 4" and a 6" target barrel would be desirable. Maybe even a 5" barrel. If the manufacturer will fix it, if it breaks, we don't care how many MIM parts it has.
So, for now the OP can choose a Ruger SingleSix. A Herritage Rough Rider might even be better than the Charter and Taurus offerings. Good luck.
Avoid the newer Charter Arms DA 22lr. They look good, feel good in the hand, but mine lasted less than 50 rounds. Two chambers were striking the forcing cone. At an angle, even. After the 1st cylinder full, ejection was tough and became nigh impossible. Then something came aloose on the inside!
Taurus 94s should fill the void. But, I know of no one who is happy with theirs. Most of them have had to take a trip to Taurusville. That's in South America. Sometimes it takes a long time to get your gun back from them. Then, sometimes, it still ain't fixed. And, please try the DA trigger pull before buying. The grimace on your face shouldn't be permanent. Replacement spring kits help with the DA pull, but then you will become unhappy, due to light strikes.
The buying public needs, they want, a $300 to $400, .22lr DA Revolver, with a decent trigger pull. Most of us want adjustable sights. Barrel lengths of 2", 3", 4" and a 6" target barrel would be desirable. Maybe even a 5" barrel. If the manufacturer will fix it, if it breaks, we don't care how many MIM parts it has.
So, for now the OP can choose a Ruger SingleSix. A Herritage Rough Rider might even be better than the Charter and Taurus offerings. Good luck.
Lvl21nerd
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what about the Taurus .22 revolvers? are they of any quality?
It's at the high end if the price range, but this is what I would get: http://www.gunsamerica.com/99135769...lvers-Pre-1945/COLT_OFFICIAL_POLICE_22_LR.htm
I have a Colt Cobra in both .38 and .22lr. I spent more than I wanted to on the .22, but it will pay for itself in a few months with relatively lower ammunition costs. I like having the option to shoot either DA or SA.
I have a Colt Cobra in both .38 and .22lr. I spent more than I wanted to on the .22, but it will pay for itself in a few months with relatively lower ammunition costs. I like having the option to shoot either DA or SA.
Hoppes Love Potion
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powwowell is correct - there is a severe need for a good, affordable DA .22 revolver. I think Ruger could fill that niche with a version of the LCR in .22LR. They could either keep the current frame size and use an 8-shot cylinder, or develop an even smaller frame and create a truly compact 5-shot .22 that would grab a large share of the rapid-growing mousegun market.
Imagine a 3/4 size LCR with that great trigger, weatherproof frame, and swing-out cylinder. Less than 1" wide and under 10oz fully loaded. And because of the low recoil, smaller grips with less padding could be used.
Offer all models in either .22 LR or .22 Mag. Make the little 5-shot with 1" or 2" barrels, and the 8-shot version with 2", 4", and 6" barrels. List them for $400/5-shot and $500/8-shot. They'd sell like hotcakes.
Are you listening, Ruger?
Imagine a 3/4 size LCR with that great trigger, weatherproof frame, and swing-out cylinder. Less than 1" wide and under 10oz fully loaded. And because of the low recoil, smaller grips with less padding could be used.
Offer all models in either .22 LR or .22 Mag. Make the little 5-shot with 1" or 2" barrels, and the 8-shot version with 2", 4", and 6" barrels. List them for $400/5-shot and $500/8-shot. They'd sell like hotcakes.
Are you listening, Ruger?
FMJMIKE
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Ruger needs to make a LCR in .22lr...................
You can still find some very nice H&R Sportsman pieces.
You just have to watch the auctions.
Well built, good shooters, and cheaper than most currently available pieces.
1980 999 Sportsman
2 4"
1 6"
With Jay Scott grips
1980 999 Sportsman
Factory grips
You just have to watch the auctions.
Well built, good shooters, and cheaper than most currently available pieces.
1980 999 Sportsman
2 4"
1 6"
With Jay Scott grips
1980 999 Sportsman
Factory grips
I just got a 94, its a great little gun and is more or less ideal in terms of its design for a .22 plinker IMO. It has had a few small issues that Taurus corrected, it took about a week round trip.
The quality of this gun is deffenitly not the best but im satisfied with it for what I paid.
a must do modification is replace the trigger spring (not the hammer spring) with a Wolff 6.5lb one, the D/A pull is still really heavy after this, but better than the stock setup.
robctwo
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I have a SS Single six. Nice gun. Good accuracy. Very nice for a slow reloading gun. I love to let the kids shoot it. Takes them a while to empty a box of .22.
I recently went on a S&W kick and found a very nice 18 for a lot of $. I could have bought a 17 for a bit less, but I wanted the 4" barrel. Loading it is much faster than the Ruger. Accuracy is very good. Grips are great for smallish hands. I put a Tyler T grip on with the original factory magnas.
I have owned Ruger semi-auto .22s for years. Good grips for small hands. Easy to load with the right helpers and very accurate. For a new shooter I have more people happy with the Ruger semis than the single six.
I also like the .22 conversions for center fire guns. I started shooting a lot of pistol with a CZ 75BD 9mm with the .22 Kadet conversion. Two slides for one frame. Pretty quick and easy to convert. 500 .22 and 200 9mm gave me a full afternoon at the range and really improved my shooting.
My Ruger 22/45 has a weaver rail that attaches to the top for a red dot or other optics. Came with the gun. Easy on and off.
I'm not trying to get you out of the revolvers if that's the way you want to go. I enjoy both.
One of my friends likes the Rugers, Single Six and Black Hawks. He claims he hears the theme music from great westerns playing in his mind whenever he shoots them. YMMV.
I recently went on a S&W kick and found a very nice 18 for a lot of $. I could have bought a 17 for a bit less, but I wanted the 4" barrel. Loading it is much faster than the Ruger. Accuracy is very good. Grips are great for smallish hands. I put a Tyler T grip on with the original factory magnas.
I have owned Ruger semi-auto .22s for years. Good grips for small hands. Easy to load with the right helpers and very accurate. For a new shooter I have more people happy with the Ruger semis than the single six.
I also like the .22 conversions for center fire guns. I started shooting a lot of pistol with a CZ 75BD 9mm with the .22 Kadet conversion. Two slides for one frame. Pretty quick and easy to convert. 500 .22 and 200 9mm gave me a full afternoon at the range and really improved my shooting.
My Ruger 22/45 has a weaver rail that attaches to the top for a red dot or other optics. Came with the gun. Easy on and off.
I'm not trying to get you out of the revolvers if that's the way you want to go. I enjoy both.
One of my friends likes the Rugers, Single Six and Black Hawks. He claims he hears the theme music from great westerns playing in his mind whenever he shoots them. YMMV.
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