Vegaslaith
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I'm having some trouble decidging which one to buy-a .223 suppressor or an HK91. I just wanted to see what others' opinions were.
suppressor or HK91?
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Bowman140
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I don't know anything about the HK91, but I do know that even with a supressor, a .223 is still very loud. I knew a guy who had one on his mini 14 and it was nowhere near what you see in the movies.
bogie
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Get a Remington 700 in .308, a Jewell trigger, a Leupold or Weaver scope, and a good handloading setup.
Without a gun the suppressor is just a hunk of metal. I own a gemteck m4 entry suppressor and after all was said and done it cost $650. I can't sell it and get my $650 back but I could good money back out of a gun.
I won't sell it cause it's on my home defense rifle but if I needed to they are harder to sell than a gun.
jj
I won't sell it cause it's on my home defense rifle but if I needed to they are harder to sell than a gun.
jj
taprackbang
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"Roller-lock guns are a pain to clean."
No prob for me. Cleaning my PTR 91 is a no-brainer. Field strip, .45 bore brush for the fluted chamber, bore snake for the bore, and solvent. Voila! Done....
Go for the PTR 91 because .308 will stop someone (or something) way better than .223 will. Also .308 will perforate cover.
No prob for me. Cleaning my PTR 91 is a no-brainer. Field strip, .45 bore brush for the fluted chamber, bore snake for the bore, and solvent. Voila! Done....
Go for the PTR 91 because .308 will stop someone (or something) way better than .223 will. Also .308 will perforate cover.
HK G3
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Not true at all. Just have a can of Break-Free CLP and the original HK G3 German military cleaning kit, and you can get it spotlessly clean in about 15 minutes.
I'm extremely biased in favor of HK G3-type rifles, so you can guess what my vote will be
Heh. Out of all the guns I've ever owned, the roller locked CETME in 308 was the dirtiest.
No FAL, AK, or AUG I have ever even came close to getting the innards that dirty.
If you guys have found a way to clean the interior sides of the receiver, the nooks and crannies of the bolt carrier and the bolt without using a giant ultrasonic cleaner, then I am in awe.
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No FAL, AK, or AUG I have ever even came close to getting the innards that dirty.
If you guys have found a way to clean the interior sides of the receiver, the nooks and crannies of the bolt carrier and the bolt without using a giant ultrasonic cleaner, then I am in awe.
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TexasRifleman
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From a political standpoint there is a bigger chance of the HK91 style rifles being banned than suppressors over the next few years.
The NFA as it exists today is most likely safe from more restriction for now.
The NFA as it exists today is most likely safe from more restriction for now.
taprackbang
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"I seriously doubt he will be shooting people with his HK-91."
The HK / PTR is a battle rifle for use out to 500 yards. I am being consistent with it's intended use and .308 is the lowest common denominator.
BTW, no deer hunter that I know of would think of shooting a deer with a .223 at 100 yards.
The HK / PTR is a battle rifle for use out to 500 yards. I am being consistent with it's intended use and .308 is the lowest common denominator.
BTW, no deer hunter that I know of would think of shooting a deer with a .223 at 100 yards.
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Sometimes when hunting deer you have to perforate some cover.
Vegaslaith
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The can I was eyein' is around
$600 MSRP.(AAC M4 1000) The HK91 about $1070 out the door. Its not so much the price--I just want one or the other before......you know.
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The suppressor will cost you:
$650 MSRP
$200 Transfer Tax
$50-$100 Dealer Fee
If you are getting a TRUE GERMAN HK 91 for $1.070, I would go for the HK 91. Suppressors are nice, but you can recover your investment on the rifle if you loose interest.
$650 MSRP
$200 Transfer Tax
$50-$100 Dealer Fee
If you are getting a TRUE GERMAN HK 91 for $1.070, I would go for the HK 91. Suppressors are nice, but you can recover your investment on the rifle if you loose interest.
Vegaslaith
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No, its not a real German HK.
Zach S
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I'd get the can, but I don't like HK91 style rifles. I shot one that had a collapsible stock on it, i think that turned me off of them.
husbandofaromanian
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I am in the process of getting a Gemtech piranha suppressor for my .223 pistol (G2 Contender). I no longer want to shoot a firearm without a suppressor. My hearing and my children's hearing when they shoot with me are too valuable to risk.
Arkady
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If your local guy charges you full retail plus a transfer fee for a suppressor, then he is a crook.
Moving on-- the suppressor is a great buy because of its convenience.
Noise complaints? No problem.
I've found that the M4-1000 is comfortable to shoot without protection if you're not under a roof when you fire, and still not painful even then.
You'll find that the can makes your rifle much more pleasent to shoot, if a bit dirtier when you clean it.
Moving on-- the suppressor is a great buy because of its convenience.
Noise complaints? No problem.
I've found that the M4-1000 is comfortable to shoot without protection if you're not under a roof when you fire, and still not painful even then.
You'll find that the can makes your rifle much more pleasent to shoot, if a bit dirtier when you clean it.
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