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suppressor or HK91?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Vegaslaith, Jul 12, 2008.

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  1. Vegaslaith

    Vegaslaith Member

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    I'm having some trouble decidging which one to buy-a .223 suppressor or an HK91. I just wanted to see what others' opinions were.
     
  2. Bowman140

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    I don't know anything about the HK91, but I do know that even with a supressor, a .223 is still very loud. I knew a guy who had one on his mini 14 and it was nowhere near what you see in the movies.
     
  3. Tyris

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    Go for the silencer. Roller-lock guns are a pain to clean.

    -T
     
  4. Conqueror

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    You must be getting a bargain on that HK. Cheapest HK rifle I've ever seen for sale was about 4x the price of my .223 can.
     
  5. bogie

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    Get a Remington 700 in .308, a Jewell trigger, a Leupold or Weaver scope, and a good handloading setup.
     
  6. Just Jim

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    Buy the gun, you lose money buying a suppressor.

    jj
     
  7. Tyris

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    The money is typically lost on a SALE.

    The silencer will do something the HK cant do, it can make the 223 more quiet.
    This is the reason I stopped buying new guns and buy cans.

    -T
     
  8. Just Jim

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    Without a gun the suppressor is just a hunk of metal. I own a gemteck m4 entry suppressor and after all was said and done it cost $650. I can't sell it and get my $650 back but I could good money back out of a gun.
    I won't sell it cause it's on my home defense rifle but if I needed to they are harder to sell than a gun.

    jj
     
  9. Tyris

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    He stated that he had a 223 already, that is what the silencer would be for.

    If you're worried about getting "money back" from gun accessories then you're holding a flawed view that they're some sort of investment.

    -T
     
  10. taprackbang

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    "Roller-lock guns are a pain to clean."

    No prob for me. Cleaning my PTR 91 is a no-brainer. Field strip, .45 bore brush for the fluted chamber, bore snake for the bore, and solvent. Voila! Done....
    Go for the PTR 91 because .308 will stop someone (or something) way better than .223 will. Also .308 will perforate cover.
     
  11. Tyris

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    I seriously doubt he will be shooting people with his HK-91.

    The number one reasons gun ranges are shut down in america is due to noise complaints. Silencers on the muzzles of rifles would quell that complaint.

    -T
     
  12. HK G3

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    Not true at all. Just have a can of Break-Free CLP and the original HK G3 German military cleaning kit, and you can get it spotlessly clean in about 15 minutes.

    I'm extremely biased in favor of HK G3-type rifles, so you can guess what my vote will be :)
     
  13. Tyris

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    Heh. Out of all the guns I've ever owned, the roller locked CETME in 308 was the dirtiest.
    No FAL, AK, or AUG I have ever even came close to getting the innards that dirty.

    If you guys have found a way to clean the interior sides of the receiver, the nooks and crannies of the bolt carrier and the bolt without using a giant ultrasonic cleaner, then I am in awe.

    -T
     
  14. TexasRifleman

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    From a political standpoint there is a bigger chance of the HK91 style rifles being banned than suppressors over the next few years.

    The NFA as it exists today is most likely safe from more restriction for now.
     
  15. taprackbang

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    "I seriously doubt he will be shooting people with his HK-91."

    The HK / PTR is a battle rifle for use out to 500 yards. I am being consistent with it's intended use and .308 is the lowest common denominator.

    BTW, no deer hunter that I know of would think of shooting a deer with a .223 at 100 yards.
     
  16. taprackbang

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    Sometimes when hunting deer you have to perforate some cover.
     
  17. Vegaslaith

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    The can I was eyein' is around
    $600 MSRP.(AAC M4 1000) The HK91 about $1070 out the door. Its not so much the price--I just want one or the other before......you know.
     
  18. Kenneth Lew

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    The suppressor will cost you:

    $650 MSRP
    $200 Transfer Tax
    $50-$100 Dealer Fee

    If you are getting a TRUE GERMAN HK 91 for $1.070, I would go for the HK 91. Suppressors are nice, but you can recover your investment on the rifle if you loose interest.
     
  19. Vegaslaith

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    No, its not a real German HK.
     
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    Any dealer that charges a transfer fee on top of MSRP is bad news.

    I get mine at deep discount + $50 transfer fee, totals well under MSRP.

    -T
     
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    I'd go for the firearm over the can. The can is an expensive novelty with no real practical application in realistic terms.
     
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    I'd get the can, but I don't like HK91 style rifles. I shot one that had a collapsible stock on it, i think that turned me off of them.
     
  23. husbandofaromanian

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    I am in the process of getting a Gemtech piranha suppressor for my .223 pistol (G2 Contender). I no longer want to shoot a firearm without a suppressor. My hearing and my children's hearing when they shoot with me are too valuable to risk.
     
  24. Arkady

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    If your local guy charges you full retail plus a transfer fee for a suppressor, then he is a crook.

    Moving on-- the suppressor is a great buy because of its convenience.
    Noise complaints? No problem.
    I've found that the M4-1000 is comfortable to shoot without protection if you're not under a roof when you fire, and still not painful even then.

    You'll find that the can makes your rifle much more pleasent to shoot, if a bit dirtier when you clean it.
     
  25. Just Jim

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    Thank you for reinforcing my point, you get no money back for accessories compared to the gun itself. Suppressors are not a good investment.

    jj
     
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