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SWAT: The Movie!

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Anyone catch the preview for the LAPD SWAT movie w/ Samuel Jackson, LL Cool J, Colin Farrell (sp?), etc?

Looks like lots of M4s, Benellis and 1911s!

Colin: "Which one is your Benelli?"
Samuel Jackson: "It's the one that says...." :eek:

Also a female character in the movie, does LAPD SWAT have women on the teams?
 
Hey Skunk, I was just wondering - do you have a job, or is posting on THR your job? How do you find the time...?
 
Great...

A movie that glamorizes home invasion at the hands of abusive rogue government agencies... 'may as well call it Stormtrooper.

:barf:

Guys, these are not your friends, they are not peacekeepers, they do not further the cause of Truth, Justice or the American Way: occasionally they have goals that coincide with your own, that is not the same thing. There is not a man amongst you that has not, privately or publicly, cried out against the relentless assault upon our freedoms and our way of life. Who do you think makes that happen? A bunch of cowardly, aging politicians? No, it is their hired thugs in the various law enforcement agencies and departments across the nation. These are not the "rescue heroes" you were sold on 9-11. These are mercenaries that will turn on an honest and decent citizen just as quick as they'll take on rapist or murder. Right or wrong, moral or immoral, it doesn't matter to them. All it takes is a few strokes of a pen to put you on the menu.

I'm sure there is no shortage of law enforcement apologists here, as there are on all the forums. I'm sure there are many current and former LEOs that are real nice guys. Heck, my dad's amongst them. I'd even wager we have plenty of members in law enforcement. Just the same, the simple fact is that if you're in law enforcement you're on the wrong side. You're part of the problem, not part of the sollution, and as far as I'm concerned the "I was just following orders" excuse is going to get you about as far as it got others in the Nuremburg trials.

No, I can't say I'm too hot to watch this movie.
 
These are mercenaries that will turn on an honest and decent citizen just as quick as they'll take on rapist or murder
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BS! Do you know anything about police work or are you just too damn paranoid for your own good. They are just cops doing what cops do. Been doing it for decades now and no one seems to mind too much until this whole Patriot Act came along. TAKE OFF YOUR TINFOIL HAT, it's making your head swell up.

GT
 
TarpleyG,

A SWAT team will go after anyone whom their superiors tell them to go after, every time. There is no moral judgement involved. Yes, that could be an honest and decent citizen, or it could be a bad guy. It very well could be someone involved in an activity that doesn't harm anyone other than themselves, in the privacy of their own home. The point is that you don't have to be wearing a tinfoil hat to realize that SWAT teams and the like can be easily used to violate people's rights. How many stories have we heard of people being killed because a SWAT team broke into the wrong house?
 
"All too often, those in my homeland who love liberty live in fear of a "visit" by either the cops, customs agents or JBTs from the local gestapo."
kannonfyre,
I like this line and I agree wholeheartedly.
Many of us are God fearing honest Americans that have to think
twice about actions during everyday life that can bring the JBT's down on us.
 
So, R127, do you advocate disbanding SWAT teams? While we're at it, should we just disband the police, too, since basically everything you said can be applied to any LEO, and if we got rid of SWAT, then their duties would be left to the normal street cops. Personally, in high risk situations, I think the higher the level of training, the higher the safety level for everyone involved. That goes for the officers, bystanders, hostages, and perps. To me you just sound like your tin foil hat is on too tight.

Many of us are God fearing honest Americans that have to think twice about actions during everyday life that can bring the JBT's down on us.
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Um... what is it that you have to think twice about? There are some laws I'd like to get rid of, but I can't think of any in my everyday life that I have to think twice about.

I think El Tejon said it right:
I fear their political masters.
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Politics aside.....I think this movie looks like a steaming pile of feces. The preview I saw made it out to be The Fast And The Furious with guns and black nylon. Surprised Vin Diesel isn't in it. No thanks....I'll pass. :barf:
 
I downloaded the trailer.

It looks like a crapy movie. Ill conceived plot. Pathetic writing. Unrealistic action, mission, execution...

It looks like a vomitous mass of hype.

I like the casting... Jackson... the chick from fast and furious/resident evil/deep blue/girl fight... That dude from that spy flick. What was it called? The Recruit?
Good cast. Just wish the film was something different.


Big Orange fire balls and lear jets on freeways... PLEASE!:cuss: :fire: :cuss:
 
But it has Samuel Jackson in it!

"What do they call an MP5 in Germany? They call it an em-pay funf"

Resident Evil was cheesy but I rented it for the G36 mit dem 40mm grenadelauncher. (who cares about the chick that was holding it anyway, the MP5K-PDWs were sweet too) :eek:

OK I have to take my intravenous CLP shot.
 
R127 - suggest you raid the meth labs for society. Complaints about the militarization of the police must be viewed in light of the increasing violence of society as a whole. Forgot 'bout the LAPD shootout with the two heavily armored and armed bank robbers? How about the SFPD officer who was killed by a carjacker that had a Steyer Aug? Don't forget about those NH cops who were killed by a murderer (he shot some other folks first) who was armed with a 223 rifle. Recently, a National Park Ranger was killed near the border. We can't go back to the days of Andy & Barney. Nor can we stand by and allow Colombines to happen again.

I don't disagree that there are abuses. WACO is perhaps the most glaring of all examples. However, not all LE should be condemned because of a few. Justice may be had from the Courts and Randy Weaver certainly did (not that it did his wife any good).

BTW, mercenaries are soldiers who work for hire and owe their loyalty only to their employer. Members of SWAT teams are civil servants.
 
"who cares about the chick that was holding it anyway"

Skunk... Buddy... Listen to me for just a second...

Unplug... Go to your local watering hole, or college campus...
Find a cute girl. Ask her out. Take her on some dates... on your 3rd one, give her a kiss good night.

Then your views might change.

:confused:

Unless your not wired that way, in which case go pick up on whoever you like...
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Ok, maybe to some extent I can agree with Gary that SWAT is a necessary evil given the times we live in. What I can not agree with is a movie that plans to glamorize such behavior so that impressionable people think it is an accepted and honorable way to do business. Peace officers, that should be the strived for norm to be deviated from only in extreme circumstances.

The big problem is that such special police units become self-fufilling prophecies. They have the hammers, suddenly everything looks like nails. Wannausemycoolgear-itis. The specialized training, the fraternal nature of doing exciting work with the same people day in and out begins to breed the us v. them syndrome. All that then stands in the way of a potential disaster then is the leadership. If the leadership has a bond to the special units like Darryl Gates or maybe a small town sheriff who is part of the team then bad things stand to happen.

I also don't hold the North Hollywood deal or Columbine as shining examples of SWAT work. They had all the cool gear and training but were reluctant to employ it. Why? One of their men might get shot. So let's stand around and let everyone else bleed, the men of SWAT are more important.
 
George

>> Unplug... Go to your local watering hole, or college campus...
Find a cute girl. Ask her out. <<

Nope. Can't CCW there. :cuss:

>> Then your views might change. <<

I didn't say I don't like girls. Just don't care for the Hollywood types.

>> I expect after the movie is released there will be more nineteen year old applicants to police academies wanting to be SWAT officers. <<

I knew quite a few people who want to be super secret agents because of Scully and Alias. :rolleyes: "For every 30 minutes of fun, there's 4 hours of paperwork." --local a popo.

>> Have you noticed how much Skunk's social life keeps coming up in some of these posts? <<

:uhoh: Yeah, but I have a cool knife to show for it don't I? :D
 
Guys, we've got a mission... We gotta get Skunk a girlfriend. Without benefit of a rental agreement... Which means that she's gotta shoot, _and_ own tactical undies...

Personally, on the whole "SWAT controversy," I think that too many PDs have created monsters... I mean, look at some of the small towns that have been spending their "war on some drugs" money on armored personnel carriers, machine guns, lovely tactical black uniforms, etc. - 99.9% of that stuff just isn't needed. But it _will_ be used eventually.
 
Also a female character in the movie, does LAPD SWAT have women on the teams?
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I think LAPD SWAT is part of Metro Division, which is not a normal geographic division, like Central, Valley, etc.

I remember there being some, not many, women in Metro Division, but I don't specifically know if there are women in the SWAT teams.

Sweeping generalization here, but I don't remember the women in Metro Division being hotties. The hotties were either in regular patrol division, detectives, or in vice. :D
 
The concept of SWAT teams is really nothing more than a very ill-fitting bandage applied to problems that have arisen as a direct result of ninny-headed social engineering.

Take, for instance, the problem of meth labs. I submit to you that if the war on drugs (and guns) had never been instigated meth would never have gained the popularity it has. After all, if you're a junkie who can't get ahold of cocoa plants, or whatever naturally occurring stuff is used to refine in order to get high, what are you going to do? Why you're gonna make like MacGuyver and improvise. When life gives you cough meds...

Same goes for school shootings. Hmm...let's see, we'll design an environment which punishes the victim for fighting back against bullies, and ties the hands of educators making them unable to nip these situations in the bud. Stick a bunch of borderline psychopathic kids in these situations and see what happens. And then everybody acts all surprise when some nerd finally freaks out and goes on a rampage.

Are there limited times where a SWAT Team might be a good thing to have? Yes, in large cities where there is a chance of extremely violent crime a la the West Hollywood bank shootout. But does Lafayette, Indiana really need it's own SWAT Team?
No.
 
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