Tactical build almost complete

[spyderdude]

1 Remington 870 Express Magnum 12 gauge shotgun: $265
1 Knoxx Spec Ops Stock: $100
1 TacStar 2 round mag extension: $40
1 Uncle Mike's magazine clamp: $21
1 Surefire Defender light: $74
1 TacStar 6 round sidesaddle: $33
2 boxes of Remington 00 buckshot: $6
1 box of Remington rifled slugs: $3

The look on the intruder's face: Priceless



Any other suggestions on what I can do next is appreciated! I love my 870!

 

[LittleLebowski]

How is this tactical?

 

[spyderdude]

Ok, maybe I used the wrong choice of words there , its 3:00 AM, and I'm not all here, but let me re-phrase that "Home Defense System" is almost complete.

 

[LittleLebowski]

That'll work Do the mods help during firing?

 

[spyderdude]

The side saddle makes it easier to reload, the light, well it obviously would make it easier to look for "bump in the night" things, and the Knoxx Spec Ops stock does exactly what it was designed to do. I dunno, maybe I just put this crap on my shotgun because I can. I just can't stand leaving a gun like it was when it came off the assembly line, knowing there are "tacticool" parts available for it! My Romanian AK47 is the next gun I plan to work on.

 

[MarshallDodge]

You forgot the kitchen sink!

Just kidding, it looks nice.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Looks good,still needs one thing.

Wear marks!!

Please show those in your next photos....

 

[Fred Fuller]

Dave is too nice.

$533 spent on hardware.

$9 spent on ammo.

So, how many rounds down the tube? How much range time/trigger time vs. sitting in the living room fondling/taking pictures time?

Is this gun for show, or for go? If it's for go, GO GET SOME TRIGGER TIME! before you have to use it for real and find something you bolted on keeps the gun from running. SHOOT IT HOT and make sure it runs hot. Take a class if you can. And shoot some more.

Stay safe,

lpl/nc

 

[spyderdude]

500 rounds down the barrel, and believe me, it does get some range time. I didn't add all that crap to a brand new gun, its been used LOL!

 

[shark3-1]

Sling

 

[357wheelgunner]

500 rounds per outting, for a few outings? Nice.

Oh wait you meant 500 rounds altogether?

 

[spyderdude]

5 range trips made with shotgun, 100 rounds per trip.

 

[Fred Fuller]

That's more like it. But you should add the cost of that pile of hulls to your list of expenses, so things balance out properly. And so us oldpharts here who tend to worry about neophyte shotgunners with lots of geejaws and no trigger time don't get needlessly upset and have to take more blood pressure pills 8^).

So, what do you work on at typical range sessions? Got anyone to "help" you on the range, by doing things like designating targets for you to shoot, yelling in your ear etc? Practice speedloading the gun in live fire any? Etc? Doing any night work? Barricade work? Moving with the gun in low ready/indoor ready? Seen the Awerbuck tape from the Lending Library yet?

Just looking out for your best interests, is all. Really. Not pickin' on you or anything. Not here. Not us... oh no. 8^)

lpl/nc

 

[Dave McCracken]

Spyder, we're not picking on you.

We all are such gearheads, including Yr Humble Scrivener. But, before my Number One 870 got the bells and whistles, it was well broken in.

I've tried to figure out just how many shells I've fired in the last half century. Best guess is not less than 50K nor more than 100K. Most of these have been fired from 870s. These varied from box stock to having most of the stuff on yours plus things like trigger stops, extended cones and slings.

A box stock 870 is an awesome weapon. The addons may or may not amplify its effectiveness for a given task.

Right now, what you need is ammo. Dance with your 870 until you can operate it in low light 20 seconds out of a sound sleep, for you may need to.

Use it, doing some of the exercises that Lee suggests and things from the Archives.

At that point, the goodies on your very nice shotgun are adjuncts to sound form, technique, tactics and the other stuff that will keep you alive when it hits the fan and things go bump in the night. Until then, they're just Cool Stuff.

 

[Dan Forrester]

Knoxx Stock: Cheesy. Looks fragile! Even if it’s sturdy it doesn’t look comfortable and cant offer any (or much) advantage in making the weapon more compact.

TacStar mag extention: This creates an excellent point in your tube for a shell or the follower to get hung up. I’ve seen it before. If it happened in the middle of a gun fight a good swift slam on the floor will usually work. Be carefull not to damage your “Spec Ops Stock” when you do this.

TacStar sidesaddle: This gets bashed on something solid and the aluminum threads strip right out. If you loose the two screws you receiver begins to disassemble.

The Surefire light could come in handy. I prefer the one which is actually built into the fore grip though.

You started with a good base gun and then messed it up. Don’t worry, we’ve all gotten caught up in the all the tactical stuff at one point of another.

Dan

 

[spyderdude]

Have you even tried the Knoxx Spec Ops stock? It does exactly what it was designed to do, reduce felt recoil. It may look a little funny, but to me form follows function, and can take some abuse. I have yet to have the mag follower, or the shells get hung up in the tube. I made sure the dimples were completely removed, and smoothed out the holes they left behind.

 

[shark3-1]

Just wondering about your light placement. It seems as though you would get burnt very easily trying to manipulate it after you've fired a few rounds. That may be inconsequential to you though.

I would try to attach it to the forearm somehow, or get a "clickie" tailcap for it.

 

[daysleeprx]

Knoxx Stock: Cheesy. Looks fragile! Even if it’s sturdy it doesn’t look comfortable and cant offer any (or much) advantage in making the weapon more compact.

Have you actually tried one? They're actually quite comfortable and do reduce recoil a fair bit (as they're supposed to).

You started with a good base gun and then messed it up.

It's his gun...if it works for him, how did he mess it up?

 

[The Deer Hunter]

Sling

Indeed. In order to have anything tactical you need like a 3-point sling of some sort.

nice gun btw.

Also, you might want to try turning the shells upside down. Since where you load it is underneath its alot simpler when you dont have to spin them around.

 

[Stretchman]

Knoxx Stock: Cheesy. Looks fragile! Even if it’s sturdy it doesn’t look comfortable and cant offer any (or much) advantage in making the weapon more compact

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Actually, on an 18 inch gun, the retractable stock makes a big difference in how long the actual weapon is. I have the Mesa Tac. I love it.

TacStar mag extention: This creates an excellent point in your tube for a shell or the follower to get hung up. I’ve seen it before. If it happened in the middle of a gun fight a good swift slam on the floor will usually work. Be carefull not to damage your “Spec Ops Stock” when you do this.

Mine came stock with a 6 round magazine.

TacStar sidesaddle: This gets bashed on something solid and the aluminum threads strip right out. If you loose the two screws you receiver begins to disassemble.

Could not agree more. Mount the shells to the butt, or get a wrist cuff, or some other way of holding them. Not on the sling either. Weighs the gun down.

The Surefire light could come in handy. I prefer the one which is actually built into the fore grip though.

300 Bux for a flashlight that's good for about 2 hrs. Rather have a LED job that burns for about 20 hrs on a set of batteries. Never know how long you might be out for.

By all means get a tac sling. And a tritium bead, for darkness. They do come in handy. Sometimes you can see your target but not your weapon, if you are in darkness.

 

[EricTheBarbarian]

wheres the mud flaps and racoon tail?

 

[Dan Forrester]

It’s his gun and he can do whatever he wants with it. Just don’t make it tactical for the sake of being tactical. I did the same thing at one time. Side folding stock, side saddle, tube extension, and of course a light.

I found out that all that stuff was crap and made my weapon more fragile, and less reliable.

I must admit however I have not shot with a Knoxx Stock. Only picked one up at a gun show and took a look. My opinion is that if I get a jam with my pump gun, either in the tube or from a short stroke (which happened all the time if your shooting fast) I will grab the fore grip and slam the but down HARD. I do not know if this stock would survive.

Personally I feel a Remington 870 Police with 18 inch barrel, bead sight, synthetic stock, no tube extension, a surefire front light (with LED bezel), and #4 shot high brass is the perfect HD weapon.

But you know what they say about opinions.

Dan

 

[swampgator]

Have you even tried the Knoxx Spec Ops stock? It does exactly what it was designed to do, reduce felt recoil.

A cheap fix for recoil reduction: Get a bag of #7 shot big enough to fill the cavity of the plastic stock. Sewn shut, the canvas bags that lead shot come in work well, but a duct taped ziplock works well enough. Screw the butt pad back on and go to town.