Tactical v. Practical

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Bushido

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Ok heres the thing. i have a buck knife. its the 116 i think. its big storng and sharp. so why does anyone need "tactical" knife. personally i dont see what special need there is for a knife that prolly wont get used for fighting, or if it is, the only specail thing it will do is stab and sash.
 
What is kinda funny is that probably 99.9% of these knives labeled "tactical" will probably never ever be used for fighting, offensive or defensive. Ask any Correctional Officer or Police Officer about what true "killing" knives look like. In my experience (12 1/2 years in Corrections, 10 years in LE), most knives that have killed people are homemade from basic materials like pieces of scrap iron, sharpened on a concrete floor, and wrapped with cloth or tape for a handle.

Bushido - That Buck Knife will do anything you need it to do, except for maybe chopping brush in the woods :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Most Corvettes never get wrung-out to their full potential but folks still buy 'em. For some its a matter of disposable income. Others feel its better to have and not need than to need...

That said, I don't own anything tactical :( I have a Becker BK7 but its desert beige and is used as a camp tool, not a combat knife.
 
Me personally, I go for pratical. This "tactical" stuff is just a trendy marketing scheme and will one day die off like "Rad" or "Groovy" and soon "Extreme". Hell, they even have "Extreme" cola. How can that be?
 
Why did you get the Buck when you could have bought a Swedish Frost Clipper for less than $10 that will do everything the Buck can do? You must be a victim of Buck's marketing :rolleyes:

Hopefully you see my point.
 
Seems every custom knife maker goes Tactical at some point, probably because they sell so well. These guys sell $500 knives and have a year backlog at least. Everyone is so into tactical stuff I feel weird sometimes just making hunting knives but it's what I like and I figure they'll always be popular.
 
well my buck was from a pawn shop (20 bucks) and i grew up with em so its more of a feeling thing. i prefer hunting knives to "tactical" i saw a pic of a air borne ranger, and well with the array of knives, he choose a Ka-bar with the leather handle and sheath.
 
True "tactical" is what you have on hand when suddenly confronted with a desperate situation.

Capital-T "Tactical" seems to involve increasing sales through creative use of black and gray pigment, and superfluous grinding.
 
And whats up with these knives made out of "super polymer carbon magnatite depleted uranium" that cost $300? It's crazy. It's 6"s of metal with an edge and a point! How much money can 3 oz of metal cost?
 
well my buck was from a pawn shop (20 bucks)

The Swede blade is still half the price with all the function...

and i grew up with em so its more of a feeling thing.

Well there ya go. Face it, you didn't really "need" a Buck and you could have got a useable knife for half the price. Its not based on needs, it is based on wants, even in your case. You wanted a Buck because they feel good to you and you have confidence in it. So who cares if somebody buys 10 Striders and they've never even spent a night outdoors? If it gets them psyched up, what is the big deal?

i prefer hunting knives to "tactical"

I just like knives period :) But I also tend to prefer fine cutters and choppers over any sharpened tactical prybar.
 
And whats up with these knives made out of "super polymer carbon magnatite depleted uranium" that cost $300? It's crazy. It's 6"s of metal with an edge and a point! How much money can 3 oz of metal cost?

In any type of product, you get 75% for nearly the same price. The other 25% gets expontentially higher to attain both in level of skill and level of cash. It is a simple economic phenomenon.
 
No offense, but my Spydie Native has a finer edge than any Buck I own, came from the factory popping hairs (unlike any Buck I own) and is simply much easier to use for just about any task than the Buck 110 series ever was.

I mean no disrespect to the venerable Buck 110. I like 'em, I've used 'em, but I get tired of the attitude that whatever is popular at the moment is bad. Strong, lightweight materials, edge-holding, superior ergonomics, strong, simple locks and speedy, simple deployment are not bad things.
 
I've got tactical knives. They're great for farm work :D
Seriously, the tactical thing, is mainly a marketing term. Some knives are way out there and not good for much other than making you feel like a mall ninja, but most of them are good users. Its all about personal preference.
I really like the looks of the buck 110, functionally its good enough for most of the stuff I use a knife for. Its also heavy, thick, one hand opening, and no pocket clip. It might do the job fine once its out, but carrying it is a hassle for me as I don't like loose knives in my pocket and don't have room on my belt for it.
My benchmade AFCK (advanced folding combat knife :rolleyes: :neener:)
) is large enough to cut what I want, has a comfortable grip, but is slim and lightweight. Carries so easy you don't even know its there. Tough no nonsense materials. No pretty wood to scratch up, no brass to get tarnished. I can beat the tar out of it and not feel bad at all :D

Now I don't always carry the "tactical" stuff, but when I'm out working they fit my needs pretty well.
After carrying knives that can be opened and closed with one hand for awhile, you'll find you don't want to switch back also. I made myself a real dressed up linerlock folder, cocobolo scales, aluminum bolsters, fileworked liners and blade.....it still has a pocket clip and thumbstud. Just can't live without em anymore.
 
"...This "tactical" stuff is just a trendy marketing scheme..." And stop right there. There's no such thing as a 'tactical' anything. The term 'tactical' is a marketing term and nothing more. There's no such thing as a tactical knife, shotgun, rifle, scope, flashlight or underwear.
A good knife is a good knife. It's a tool. The same as the hammer in your tool box. It's made of high quality steel, will hold an edge and will do what you need to do with it. Custom knives are usually hand made out of good steel. That's what makes them expensive. Doesn't make them open cans, cut rope, slice bacon or skin deer any better. Knives are not the right tool to cut brush. That's what machetes are for. A hatchet is a poor man's axe.
Mind you, I saw a defintion, on some forum, of what the term 'tactical' means. Black, made of nylon or other synthetic with velcro. That means my $8Cdn, Chinese made runners are 'tactical'.
 
I got a black KA-BAR before I left the Corps, cause the mall ninjas said I couldn't play in their sand box without a tacticool knife. Now I am one of the popular kids. :D

Yeah the tacticool thing is silly at times, just like "rice" on a car. But hey, if it gets me a product that is more convenient or useful, fine by me. If it weren't for those Tacticool types, the military never would have gotten Camelbaks. And I sure did appreciate my Camelbak in Yuma and on the Flight Deck.
 
I like the tanto style of cutlery. Very strong. I have had excelent results with Schrade kinves, and I had a folding Kershaw kinfe that never failed me durring my whole enlistment in the Army, including a tour in Somalia. I almost cried when I finally abused it enough that it failed. I don't think I have ever spent more that $25 on a kinfe. However, my brother recently bought me a SOG assisted opening knife at a gun show. I really like this knife, its easy to open and close with one hand, it's very slim, and keeps a decent edge. It even has one of those pocket clips on it that I never thought I would like, but it is quite handy. Keeps my knife right where I want it in my pocket, and I don't have to have yet another pouch strapped to my belt. Fits my needs, its in my pocket every day now. Only drawback, is that it is probably illegal to carry, so I can't just "whip it out" and use it anywhere. Only time will tell if this knife is a keeper or not.
 
I got a black KA-BAR before I left the Corps, cause the mall ninjas said I couldn't play in their sand box without a tacticool knife. Now I am one of the popular kids. :D

Hey man the same thing happened to me! I was a kid in junior high playing D&D in my friend's parent's basement, then I bought a tactical knife, and I couldn't keep the chicks away. :p
 
then I bought a tactical knife, and I couldn't keep the chicks away.

Wow!

Hey, you know, coincidentally, my experience...






was nothing like that.


John
 
Sorry to break the news to you but pocket clips, thumbstuds or thumbholes and one handed locks are not going anyway. Your Buck IS going away since it is outdated. Being able to open and close a knife with one hand is without question the most important advancement to come along in folding knives since the lock itself.

Buck knives are fine if you have the time and use of both of your hands but when you are holding something with one hand and need to cut it with your other hand, you will see my point.

You need to get yourself a good modern folder that you can open and close with one hand and clip to your pocket (or bib overalls) to fully understand what I mean. Until then, you are on the outside looking in. Go buy a Spyderco Endura (or Native, or Police, or Calypso Jr., or Delica, or Military, or Para-Military) and carry it for a few weeks and then lets hear what you have to say. Until then, you are behind the times and your opinion is not very valuable since you have not even tried what you are saying is worthless.
 
albanian i dont know what planet you are from, or how your motor skills are, but i can get my fixed buck knife out with one hand. if you cant get your knife in and out of the sheath with one hand, you shouldnt have knives. i have a kershaw tortionbar knife. thats my pocket, but i like my buck. so all in all, i know the pros, and cons to a folder, and i still love that fixed. fixed is going know were, they ahve been around as long as man, so im kinda proud of the rep of a fixed blades. later.
 
actually albanian idk if your telling me i dont know what im talking about. but if you are, you need to get off it. folders are pop. thats all there is to it. i have had folders more years than i have fixed. so thats about 13 years. since im 18 now. personally i think what you are saying is very iresponcible. untill you have used your knife everyday, for every thing (like eating, opening mail, and just day today things) if you havent already, and know your knife like the back of your hand then maybe ppl can tell me how far in the dark ages i am. so anyway im done ranting.
 
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