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Would not consider either one.....Smiths and Colts only.
taurus vs charter arms
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Hondo 60
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I, personally, wouldn't buy either.
I have a Charter & all I can say is "I was a noob & knew nothing about guns"
I have since looked at & felt several Taurii & left them sitting on the store counter.
If I were in the market, I'd look at S&W, Ruger or Colt.
I know that's probably not what the OP wanted to hear, but it's my opinion.
Just my 2¢ worth
I have a Charter & all I can say is "I was a noob & knew nothing about guns"
I have since looked at & felt several Taurii & left them sitting on the store counter.
If I were in the market, I'd look at S&W, Ruger or Colt.
I know that's probably not what the OP wanted to hear, but it's my opinion.
Just my 2¢ worth
Super Sneaky Steve
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I'm very unhappy with my Taurus 1911. The customer service is awful and whoever tried to fix my brand new but disfunctional gun didn't know a thing about gunsmithing.
Spend a little more on a Ruger or Smith and you'll have something that will stay in your family for generations.
Spend a little more on a Ruger or Smith and you'll have something that will stay in your family for generations.
jimmyraythomason
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It is truely amazing how previously servicable firearms became pieces of junk with the advent of the internet. As I have said before,I have owned many Taurus,Rossi and Charter Arms revolvers (still do) since I bought my first one in 1973. I also have owned many Dan Wesson,Smith and Wesson and Colts (also still do)in that same time period. I WAS displeased with a Browning HP though. I have not had ANY measurable problems top to bottom with any of them. I would buy another of any of these brands without hesitation and I would not consult the internet gurus for their opinion.
gpr
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let me answer my own thread....i bought a charter arms 22lr from buds for $275+++; half the price of my smith....i took it to the range...i was happily surprised....the cylinder was a little tight for the spent shells, nothing that a little polishing won't take care of...SA trigger it about 2#....DA is solid 6 to 7 range....i put 100 rounds through with no jams, all went boom...being stainless, it is a little heavier than the taurus....a good trade off....i rolled the dice and come up a winner...gary
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harmon rabb
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never had any experience with charter arms, but i do own a taurus that has done nothing but impress me. honestly, i think the taurus of today is not the taurus of 15 years ago (i.e. spotty quality control).
i wouldn't hesitate to buy another taurus product. that tracker with swappable 22lr/22mag cylinders is looking pretty cool to me.
i wouldn't hesitate to buy another taurus product. that tracker with swappable 22lr/22mag cylinders is looking pretty cool to me.
Taildragger-J3
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I never owned a Charter, but I've got several Taurus revolvers & have loved all of them.
punkndisorderly
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my experience
I've owned two Taurs revolvers. Had a model 44 10 or 15 years ago. Great revolver and still kick myself for selling it.
Currently own a 970 in 22lr. Not happy with it. Wish I had saved longer for a Smith. The trigger pull is overly heavy and gritty. The pull varies from one chamber to another. Some heavier than others and some longer than others. Spent casings become progessively more difficult to remove after 50-75 rounds and are almost impossible to remove after about 100 rounds. Just poorly made. On the personal side, I don't like the rubber grips. I'd like wood, but can't seem to find any.
On the up side, very accurate given the crap trigger. It also goes bang every time.
I've heard many times that, with Taurus, you either get one that runs reasonably well out of the box, or you get a lemon that'll never run right. I've read very few psitive experiences with their warrant/customer service.
I've owned two Taurs revolvers. Had a model 44 10 or 15 years ago. Great revolver and still kick myself for selling it.
Currently own a 970 in 22lr. Not happy with it. Wish I had saved longer for a Smith. The trigger pull is overly heavy and gritty. The pull varies from one chamber to another. Some heavier than others and some longer than others. Spent casings become progessively more difficult to remove after 50-75 rounds and are almost impossible to remove after about 100 rounds. Just poorly made. On the personal side, I don't like the rubber grips. I'd like wood, but can't seem to find any.
On the up side, very accurate given the crap trigger. It also goes bang every time.
I've heard many times that, with Taurus, you either get one that runs reasonably well out of the box, or you get a lemon that'll never run right. I've read very few psitive experiences with their warrant/customer service.
Taurus has made some medium framed 22s which have pretty good actions, lock up well, and shoot accurately. The 22s on the 94 frame are normally cursed with very heavy trigger pulls, lock up issues, and are the number one gun which we have to return to the factory (or whatever is in Florida) for repair. Sometimes, after describing a problem to the factory tech over the phone, getting the shipping authorization, sending and getting it back (rather quickly) we find that the problem was ignored and something else was addressed.
I have had a number of Tauruses and the Tracker and larger sizes have all been fine. Every small frame I've had, including the 85s, have been rough. I know that a lot of you have had good luck with them and I'm glad for you. They are a loss leader in the shop here.
It is interesting that the small frame Rossis built by the same organization, Braztech, have much better triggers and lockup. You might consider looking for one of them.
I bought a 51 Rossi a few years ago and it has the small frame, six inch barrel, adj sights, and shoots right along with my 617, and it was only $150 from a dealer. Bluebook puts them below Taurus in value but reality is something different.
I have had a number of Tauruses and the Tracker and larger sizes have all been fine. Every small frame I've had, including the 85s, have been rough. I know that a lot of you have had good luck with them and I'm glad for you. They are a loss leader in the shop here.
It is interesting that the small frame Rossis built by the same organization, Braztech, have much better triggers and lockup. You might consider looking for one of them.
I bought a 51 Rossi a few years ago and it has the small frame, six inch barrel, adj sights, and shoots right along with my 617, and it was only $150 from a dealer. Bluebook puts them below Taurus in value but reality is something different.
I have never shot a Charter so I can't recomend one, I have however experienced poor quality from Taurus and extremely bad customer service from Taurus (my pt1911 was returned to me in much worse condition, so much so my LGS took it back) so I can say in all confidence that you run a realistic risk when you buy a Taurus.
Taildragger-J3
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I am confident that several folks have had less than stellar experiences with Taurus. Several people have had bad experiences with Cadillacs and Mercedes.
My half dozen Taurus pistols have performed beautifully for 25+ years
My half dozen Taurus pistols have performed beautifully for 25+ years
louiethelump
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There are some CA SS 22 and 22 mag guns that are new selling on the big auction site for $239 or so. The rimfires weigh about 18 ounces as opposed to the 38 that is 16 ounces. (smaller holes) They are a steel frame, and not aluminum except for the grip frame and trigger guard, and they do not bear any strain. You have to understand the Charter. You buy it, shoot it, and LEAVE IT ALONE and it will work fine. The cylinder latch has a lot of small parts that are a pain to put back together and easy to lose if you take it apart, so DON'T. They have a real lifetime warranty, unlike Taurus that has you send the gun back with a check for (used to be 27 dollars) whatever the "fee" is to get it fixed under warranty.
To me, the Charter is head and shoulders above Taurus. But early bad experiences with Taurus as an owner and many years of repairing them as an armorer, have led me to the point that I will never again own anything Taurus. (we are talking revolvers here) The Beretta 92 clone is actually a good gun.
It is moot at this point, since you already bought the Charter, but I think you will be happy with it.
Louie
PS Charter offers a drop in factory bobbed DA only hammer for your CA in case you ever want to pocket carry it.
To me, the Charter is head and shoulders above Taurus. But early bad experiences with Taurus as an owner and many years of repairing them as an armorer, have led me to the point that I will never again own anything Taurus. (we are talking revolvers here) The Beretta 92 clone is actually a good gun.
It is moot at this point, since you already bought the Charter, but I think you will be happy with it.
Louie
PS Charter offers a drop in factory bobbed DA only hammer for your CA in case you ever want to pocket carry it.
punkndisorderly
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I seem to hear more problems with the newer taurus revolvers, say in the past 10 years or so. Perhaps the newer ones are not as we'll put together or the quality control slipped.at some point. May also be differences in models. Don't think i've ever heard of issues with their raging bull or judges. Hear quite a few about their .22's and trackers.
To use the cadillac annalogy, someone that has owned a recent caddy, may love theirs. But had they experienced ownership during the early 80's, may have an entirely different ownership experience.
larryh1108
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How true and it shows how quality within the same company can change over the years. The early and mid 80s Cadillacs almost killed the franchise. The humpback Seville was atrocious and the HT4100 engine ruined the Cadillac reputation for years. The Northstar engine saved the franchise but any Cadillac owner knows that the Northstar is a $2500 repair bill waiting to happen at about 120k miles when the head gasket starts to leak. The check engine light comes on and it runs a little hotter and all of a sudden it needs a head gasket job for $2500+. Now, Cadillac makes some of the best cars out there and pre 80s Cadillac used to be the benchmark for American quality and success. The same goes for most major manufacturers of guns or anything else. Sometimes they think they can cut costs, QC or quality parts to increase the bottom line on their loyal followers and they find out it cost them a generation of customers. Stupid is as stupid does.
gpr
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'4-6-8' anyone.....
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