Teen shoots cops with WWII "sniper" rifle...

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In CA the dad would be in big trouble for leaving a gun where a minor could get to it
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Sounds like a dumb law.

I'm not a fan of allowing young people to have unsupervised access to firearms
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I am. So long as the kid is responsible. But a pothead doesn't sound like a responsible kid to me.*

*By that, I mean once he was caught with the marijuana. That presents a problem, and the parents should have been watching him. Closely.
 
What a freaking shame. From the posted story the cops did nothing to merit their getting shot in the back. I'd wager the kid had more issues than just the use and ticket for the ganja, even if he was a high scoring student in school.
I would say make pot legal, but then hippies would have NOTHING to talk about.
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As if. Don't forget sacred geometry; hollow earth; mind control rays; reptile aliens; ascended master; drumming circles; magic possums & David Icke.
 
Get caught by the cops with some pot, your life goes to hell. Police don't like you, your parents lose a lot of respect for you, your life goes from good to "worse than death."

I'd definitely chalk this up to sad, unstable teenager under a lot of stress
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Bingo. I remember being in HS and having honors classes. I joined the Marines, but all my buddies were applying to Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, etc. These kids were under unimaginable strees. Every now and then one them would get a "C" or something like that and they'd break down as if they're life had been completely ruined.
 
Sounds like some petulant idiot slack jawed flop-haired modern day idiot teenager.

And I guess this shoots the "peaceful pothead" theory in the ass.
 
As if. Don't forget sacred geometry; hollow earth; mind control rays; reptile aliens; ascended master; drumming circles; magic possums & David Icke.
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The newest one is the theory that the Earth is in fact GROWING LARGER. I'm not making that up.
 
technically it is, by a couple tons a year. But that's due to small meteorites that burn up in the atmosphere, and contribute to the overall mass of the planet (atmosphere included).
 
I am. So long as the kid is responsible. But a pothead doesn't sound like a responsible kid to me.
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I dont know if it's fair to call the kid a "pothead" .. from the way he reacted, it sounds like this might have been a first time deal and he snapped. A true pothead would realize that a little weed isnt a big deal and doesnt warrant grabbing a gun and shooting cops.
 
You would really have to define ''Responsible drug use'' in some meaningful way.

Don't get me wrong I am all for the decriminalization of drugs. But not for me or mine to do them. Most hard drug addicts would die off in a couple of years due to the availabilty of cheap drugs. This would solve a lot of problems.

Honor student? I wonder if I posted ''Billionaire'' on my web site who would believe it?
 
Very sad, unfortunetly for the officers and their families it is part of the risks of the job and I am sure we all wish it did not happen but you have a kid who takes dope probably got a little freaked out about the cops in his yard and thought he was gonna go away, well now he will, but either way he made a decision and the drugs did not help in that decision. Really only one factor could have possibly stopped it and that is lock your guns up when you are not with them.
 
There is such thing as responsible drug use
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There is no such thing as responsible drug use, and anyone who believes there is shouldn't posses a gun. You are obviously living in a delusional world.
 
Think of all the things you shouldn't do after drinking, like driving, gambling, anything involving firearms, getting inked. Hard to expain I guess, just doin your own thing not hurting other people(figuratively and literally).
 
I tend to agree that the pot was'nt the problem. I think the kid must have been on some ADD drug or an anti-depresent. I would'nt have ever done something like that when I was a teen.
 
this is really troubling. thoughts and prayers to both of the families of the officer, and to the family of the son.
 
What a freaking shame. From the posted story the cops did nothing to merit their getting shot in the back.
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You're not suggesting that if they had not been shot in the back it might have been merited, I hope. Or that it would *ever* be merited to shoot cops (or anyone) in the back?

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pardon me, but what's a JBT? what's a DU troll?

in new jersey i think i'd be facing prison time if i allowed a minor access to a firearm, and he or she used it to harm someone.
 
I tend to agree that the pot was'nt the problem. I think the kid must have been on some ADD drug or an anti-depresent. I would'nt have ever done something like that when I was a teen.
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its possible, but blaming drugs for what the kid did is like blaming the gun for what the kid did.
 
My point about the Father's decision not to lock his guns up was not that he was to blame.

But now that you mention it, call him up and ask him, how he feels about that decision right now. Again the criminal act belongs to his son not him but seriously lock your firearms up when you are dealing with teen-agers (even the best of then are crazy occasionally). Honestly, I don't blame him, I am crying for him on some level.

For the rest of his life he will have the knowledge, that his son used the gun he bought to bring them closer together to take the life of police officers and to attempt to take the life of his wife.
 
Its has nothing to do with access to a firearm...legal or not.
I used to smoke pot myself (for about 15 years) not a lot of it, just a puff or 2 after work to wind down and relax...same thing people use a 6 pack of beer for...havent touched any in a few years, but speaking from my own experience...that had nothing to do with it either.
Pot is not that type of drug...I'm not saying its a good habit by any means, but its no worse than smoking cigarettes (except that its illegal)
Back to the kid...clearly mentally unstable.
Life can do that to you if you're not careful, no drugs or guns required.
Really sorry for the LEO's and their families...that being said, if I was a LEO, and I was on duty, I'd be wearing my VEST...I know its uncomfortable, heavy, and expensive if the department doesnt furnish it...but so is the alternative. I'm not bashing the LEO's...just thought it may make some of you guys think as you're reading this...it may save your life.

Too bad this http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=283486
wont get near as much press as the subject of this thread...only the bad news gets press.
 
that being said, if I was a LEO, and I was on duty, I'd be wearing my VEST...I know its uncomfortable, heavy, and expensive if the department doesnt furnish it...but so is the alternative. I'm not bashing the LEO's...just thought it may make some of you guys think as you're reading this...it may save your life.
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No vest without at least level III trauma plates would have stopped those .30-06 rounds...
 
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