Temecula CA cops?

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http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/09/01/news/californian/20_02_748_31_07.txt

Team of Temecula officers disbanded, under investigation

By: JOHN HALL and JOHN HUNNEMAN - Staff Writers

TEMECULA ---- A special team of police officers who are supposed to target the more serious crimes and criminals in the city has been temporarily disbanded and an internal investigation into their actions is under way, Police Chief Jerry Williams confirmed Friday.

While Williams said he could not discuss specifics, he did confirm that a raid conducted by the Street Enforcement Team last week ---- which ended up at the wrong Temecula house ---- is part of the administrative investigation.

"We received several allegations (involving the team) and I felt it was necessary to initiate this investigation," said Williams, who was named Temecula's police chief less than a month ago. He said he could not comment further on any of those allegations.


The team, which is specifically funded by the city, is composed of a sergeant, a corporal and six officers, Williams said.

None of the eight have been placed on leave and all have been reassigned to other duties, the chief said. The investigation is being done by the internal affairs division of the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, which Temecula contracts with for police protection.

Williams added that he intends to start up a new team once the administrative investigation is complete.

"They are my front-line team," the chief said. "It is critical we keep them out there."

Williams said the team is often assigned to particular problem areas or used to address crime trends in the city.

The team is also tasked with keeping a close eye on gang members, illegal drug activity and parolees who may be in the city, he said.

Williams said he believes the team was supposed to be raiding a parolee's home Aug. 24 when they inadvertently hit the wrong door.

Officers ended up at the home of David and Lillian Scott, just off Rancho California Road.

Lillian Scott said she and her husband were in the living room discussing family plans, their 15-year-old daughter was in the garage with two friends and their 16-year-old son was in another room feeding the Scotts' 5-month-old baby.

That all changed at 9:35 p.m. she said, when Temecula police officers ---- four or five, she's not sure ----- carrying rifles charged though the unlocked front screen door and ordered the couple to the floor.

"Two of them came over and put handcuffs on the two of us," Lillian Scott said. "We asked what we had done wrong and didn't get an answer."

Elsewhere in the house other officers handcuffed their daughter and her two friends.

"(The officers) told them to get down on the f---ing floor," she said.

Her 16-year-old son, who was feeding the baby, was also ordered to the floor and handcuffed, Scott said.

From the other room, Scott heard her infant crying.

"I asked if my baby was OK and the officer told me if I moved he was going to put a bullet in my head," Scott said.

She later learned one of the officers had picked the baby up off the couch and had tried to quiet the infant, Scott said.

That sent her mind racing, Scott said.

She was unsure if the house raid was somehow connected to the murder of her daughter, Heather Steimer, then 18, who disappeared in July 2003. Steimer's body was found several weeks later buried in a shallow grave in Escondido. An Escondido man was convicted of murder in that case in 2005.

"That made what was going on even more difficult," Scott said.

Officers continued to search the house.

"They went upstairs and kicked in the doors of my bedroom and my daughter's," Scott said.

Scott later found the hinges off her bedroom door and a hole in the door leading to the daughter's room.

"Then I heard one of the officers on the radio say the second floor was clear," Scott said. "Another officer on the radio then said they were supposed to be at a one-story house."

The raid, Scott said, was supposed to be at a nearby one-story house.

"(The officers) apologized and left," she said.

Scott sent an e-mail to Temecula Mayor Chuck Washington telling him what happened.

"He's been wonderful," she said. "And the police chief came to our house and apologized."

Washington went to Scott's workplace, a local bank, this week to offer a personal apology, she said.

Contacted by phone on Friday, Washington referred questions about the incident to Williams.

"I really appreciate what the mayor and the chief of police have done," she said. "They told us the people involved would be reprimanded."

Scott added she has been contacted by Riverside County human resources officials about a settlement of the incident in lieu of a possible lawsuit.

Scott said they had yet to make a decision on how the family would proceed.

When asked about the raid at the wrong house, Williams called the family "very nice and very cooperative.

"We've tried to mend the fences," he added.

Regarding the investigation into the Street Enforcement Team, Williams said he wants to get to the bottom of things, one way or another.

"I want to get to the facts or get them exonerated, I think we owe it to (the officers)," the chief said.

Contact staff writer John Hall at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2628, or [email protected]. Contact staff writer John Hunneman at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2603.
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You gotta wonder sometimes what goes on in the heads of some these guys?

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde
 
These sort of "special units" are often a problem, as they are frequently not properly supervised.

In Chicago, there's a huge scandal about the "Special Operations" Section" (SOS) unit which had operating within it a home invasion, burglary and kidnapping ring. The Federal prosecutor who prosecuted Scooter Libby is now involved.

There's no excuse for raiding the wrong place. That's an example of not caring how you do your job, and thinking that there will be no consequences for harming the public.

At least nobody was murdered, as in the raid on the old woman's house in Atlanta.
 
another problem I learned about special units from classes and from my internship, is the lack of communication between departments. Special task forces do not communicate their information with the average police officers or other units very well. This lack of communication and misinformation between groups drastically limits their effectiveness. You end up with a sort of rivalry of one group being better than the other and many police departments have come to the conclusion that special task forces are not very effective.

Whether a special unit or not, theres always some people with the idea they dont care about laws and they just want to kick in doors. There are good police officers and poor ones, but it always seems the ones who want to play rambo make it in the news. Atleast no one was seriously hurt, but these sort of things seem to be increasingly more common, either that or I am paying more attention to it now. This seems to be the direction law enforcement is taking. It seems that these officers would be better suited dealing with insurgents than american citizens in this country.
 
Atleast no one was seriously hurt, but these sort of things seem to be increasingly more common, either that or I am paying more attention to it now.
It's probably both.

I started paying attention to the Chicago PD after I saw the story about the cop who stomped on the 115lb. barmaid. What I read, indicates that the Chicago PD is completely out of control in ways you'd expect to see in the Iraqi National Police, rather than the police department of a major US city.
 
Sounds like an episode of "The Shield." It seems that when people get involved in elite units they start feeling infallable. They puff out their chests and go to bars and pick up on chicks.

"Hey, babe what do you do?"

"Me? I del-"

"I'm on a special police task force. What's yer name
pretty lady?"

"My name is Li-"

"My name is Sergeant God and I'm in charge of a special
police task force."
 
These sort of "special units" are often a problem, as they are frequently not properly supervised.
Often entire departments are not properly supervised. Virtually no LE agencies have any kind of effective civillian oversight.
 
I started paying attention to the Chicago PD after I saw the story about the cop who stomped on the 115lb. barmaid. What I read, indicates that the Chicago PD is completely out of control in ways you'd expect to see in the Iraqi National Police, rather than the police department of a major US city.

This happens more times then you'd think, in major cities and small towns all over America.

When it hits the fan as it did here, it makes the news. Everyday in many cities police are kicking doors and putting people in jail, if it goes good (normal) it is not reported. When it goes bad they want all to know (which should be the case) if they only had good stuff to print no one would read the paper.:what:
 
No one is incapable of being corrupt. Putting on a uniform does not magically make you incorruptible. Cops are supposed to be our public servants, therefore they should be held to the highest standards of moral and ethical decency. Can't handle that, then become a janitor.
 
If they didn't have a warrant for the Scott address, it sounds like numerous criminal charges (home invasion, assault, unlawful restraint, etc.) ought to be pending.
 
The proper way to get a swat team together is to ask for volunteers. Then eliminate all the volunteers from consideration, and request they enlist in the Army or Marines. Then select from the remainder of officers.
I suspect many feel the way I do- if some piece of crap dressed as a cop ever told my wife "if you move I'll put a bullet in your head", I would devote a lot of time to making him unemployable as a cop ever again.
In some weird way I can accept that the wrong doors get kicked in once in a while. What I can't stand is the utterly unprofessional comments and behavior, like the above , and trashing a home by breaking everything up. A mistake is a mistake but they are supposed to act like police officers, not thugs.
 
In some weird way I can accept that the wrong doors get kicked in once in a while. What I can't stand is the utterly unprofessional comments and behavior, like the above , and trashing a home by breaking everything up. A mistake is a mistake but they are supposed to act like police officers, not thugs.

Well I can't, what ever happened to surveillance? How about double-checking to make sure you have the correct address BEFORE kicking the door in? Most companies that deliver groceries or pizza double check the address before sending out a delivery person, is it really to much to ask for our LEAs to do before kicking in the door to someone's home?
 
My older cousin ALMOST shot 2 LEOs when they raided his house thinking it was a drug house. They were coming up the 2nd floor stairs when he came around the corner with a 12 gauge. Fortunately no shots were fired. When he went to file a complaint he was told "wrong house,tough #%&@"
 
How is this gun related? Besides the fact that cops and sometimes homeowners carry guns?
 
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