Terrorist Attacks in USA

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Today's unsuccessful bomb attacks and last year's subway attacks in GB led me to thinking today.

What are the opinions why we have not had any attacks since 9-11 if as has been said we are so active in the middle east? Are the radicals more active in GB? Have our intelligence agencies been successful in uncovering the cells? Is actual porous nature of our borders allowing terrorist in and when can we expect an attack.

I think our intelligence is better than pre-911, but there are cells active in our country hiding behind the walls of mosques.

I have read that the next attacks will be on a high visibility and emotionally sensitive target like an elementary school. I personally think this is probable.

The porous border issue must be closed in order to improve national security and this should have been done in the months after 9-11.

Thoughts?

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I don't know Maybe the dumb punk kids here are just smarter.
In the UK, 2 crude car bombs,One in a smoking running car, the other illegally parked in a conspicuous place.
Maybe there is not a copy of the Anarchist cookbook in England.
 
Terrorist attacks are statistically pretty rare over here, regardless of our level of intelligence competence. When was the last terrorist attack on US soil prior to 9/11? If you consider Oklahoma City one, then from that time difference we'd be due one about now in 2007. The fact that terrorism is, well, intrinsically scary makes sure that it will be overblown on the news, and accordingly people overestimate the risk of an attack.

Frankly, I'm surprised that IEDs aren't all over the US. If terrorist cells in the US are as active and dangerous as the news/government tells us, why haven't they made simple remote activated bombs and planted them at malls, schools, movie theaters, etc? Of course I believe that our intelligence and investigative services are working hard to prevent this, which may explain it, but frankly I don't buy into the melodramatic yellow journalism that pervades the airwaves.

The risk of terrorism is real, but I'm more afraid of getting hit by a drunk driver on the interstate.
 
MSM Coverup

Did the gunman at the Salt Lake City mall yell to Allah before he was shot? Is the MSM in cahoots with the government to cover up actual terrorist attacks to make the GWOT domestic side look successful?


Marshall asked valid questions along these lines. I don't believe I have to wear a tin foil hat to believe in government conspiracies.


Anygun
 
Me thinks that Osama Bin Laden and his followers are not, and have never been, as big a threat as a certain presidential administration would like for us to believe. Think about all the $$$ they've been able to feed the domestic military-industrial complex the past 6 years by constantly stirring that pot with a big spoon.
 
What are the opinions why we have not had any attacks since 9-11
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Well, they caught some of them, like that goofball homeboy jihadist wannabe in Rockford, IL, trying to trade stereo speakers for hand gernades so he could wreck havoc at a mall. (Every single person he was dealing with was a fed.)
 
Because the terrorists aren't nearly as much of a threat as the government and media make them out to be.
 
Could you define that for those of us in the cheap seats?
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Here is a description, and a test.
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/13/you-are-the-homegrown-terrorist-threat/
My results,
Your score is 70%
Congratulations, you are a domestic terrorist. Well, at least you are according to the US government. Consider turning yourself in to your local authorities. There are FBI offices all around they country and they would like to talk to you. Pack your bags for Gitmo because the government doesn't like you.
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Imagine what it would be like if instead of illegal immigrants flowing in from Mexico, we were getting the poor and desperate from Pakistan.

That's basically the position Britain (and a good deal of Europe) is in.
 
lee n. field said:
Well, they caught some of them, like that goofball homeboy jihadist wannabe in Rockford, IL, trying to trade stereo speakers for hand gernades so he could wreck havoc at a mall.
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I recall hearing on one news broadcast a couple of months ago that since 9/11 we've foiled some 40-50 different Islamic terrorist plots in the U.S. This brings up the question as to just what these plots were; sure we've heard of the Fort Dix Dumbies....The Rockville plot...what were these others, and were they as bad as 9/11 and why did the media not cover them -- not even Fox News?
 
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As I said in a thread on the London mess today, I think it is simply that terrorist acts are designed to scare people, to terrorize them.

I think its clear now that, either through stupidity or bravery, Americans in general are not scared. 9/11 took out some buildings and some airplanes, but we still watch American Idol, we still care what happens to Paris Hilton, and the economy is booming. On a macro scale little was accomplished by the attacks vs what was spent in lives, time and money to make them happen.

We might overreact and do stupid things like the Patriot Act, but we do not generally cower in fear and give in to demands.

Most of Europe, and to some extent the UK, have shown a willingness to give in, therefore showing fear.

If the Dems win the Presidency and do a mass pullout of Iraq, then I think you will see attacks here increase because we have shown fear and are therefore "terrorized".

It's like when you were little and afraid of dark. Your brother would turn off the lights and scare you. As soon as you stopped being scared he didn't turn the lights off any more. Took all the fun out of it.

Our response and recovery from 9/11 took all the fun out of it for those that would attack us on our soil, so they do it somewhere that people are still a little afraid of the dark.
 
Today's unsuccessful bomb attacks and last year's subway attacks in GB led me to thinking today.

What are the opinions why we have not had any attacks since 9-11 if as has been said we are so active in the middle east? Are the radicals more active in GB? Have our intelligence agencies been successful in uncovering the cells? Is actual porous nature of our borders allowing terrorist in and when can we expect an attack.
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My first thought is that it's the same reason Japan felt that they had to bomb us rather than invade by land; they said we've got too many privately owned guns to make land invasion a viable option. And with the way people are on the lookout for terrorism these days we'd likely shoot the turban off the guy, or shoot the guy out from under his turban if we saw something going down.

Then again, we're dealing with an enemy made up of people who put a higher premium on dying than living, and who believe that dying in battle will win them the favor of Allah and grant them access to Heaven.

Maybe the terrorists are attacking the UK more often than us to prove that they're not safe just because they got rid of their guns.
 
I recall hearing on one news broadcast a couple of months ago that since 9/11 we've foiled some 40-50 different Islamic terrorist plots in the U.S. This brings up the question as to just what these plots were.
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If this were true, you can be sure the famous FBI public relations machine would have made every American well aware of how thankful they should be to the Bureau [even if someone else did the work ;-) ] and supportive of it's budget requests.
 
snakes of the desert

"anygunanywhere:"

Although the nation was infuriated by the "911" attack, it's preceding attack,
the killing of our Marines, etc., I do not think they would compare to the level of fury our nation would reach should a gradeschool be attacked.

All of the fifth column terrorists residing in our nation's universities as students; that's the largest group of them we have, would not survive the aftermath. That is despite the Saudi oil money these institutes of higher education are so greedy for.
Nor would the mini mart shopkeepers go unrecognized.

Unfortunately many innocent people would be caught up in such a reaction, but that is the way I see it, should our children become a target.

Most of these "plotters" would be driven out from amoung us, as they like to say.
 
What about the cartoon character blinking light thingie left on the bridges in Boston...? That was a really close call :D

Methinks that the terrists come over here to do their evil deeds, and find the living so good that they don't want to go through with whatever they had planned. If I lived in some M.E. hellhole, I might want to blow up myself and some other people just for relief ;)
 
There are actually quite a few Muslims stateside, and even some pretty weird subgroups like the NOA. But the bulk of them are immigrants from the upper crust of the Levant and North Africa. Many came over generations ago. It's a very different population from that found in the UK and Europe, where the underclass of Morocco, Turkey, Pakistan and other nations was tapped to fill the demand for manual labor.

There's no way of knowing for sure, but I suspect if we are forced out of Iraq the resulting wave of strength through the extremist groups will bring a vastly increased level of terror to Europe and to a lesser extent stateside.
 
ter·ror·ism (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
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UN sanctions, anyone? US foreign policy, anyone? No need worrying about the grass being redder on the other side, we have our own elected officials helping us out.
 
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