since yall twisted my arm, I broke down and got a 642 today. My local shop had them on sale for $309, I couldn't resist any longer. I naver have been much of a revolver guy but after tring out my new purchase and slipping it into a IWB holster it may become my primary ccw. I don't think I could get away with pocket carry with it but I don't even notice it when its IWB...... thanks guys.