The brady blog head at it again

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The brady bunch are at it again now against .22s and shotguns.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=88508969&blogID=232431267&MyToken=294c2578-fd22-4a2b-a531-dccb44448e3c


Tuesday, February 20, 2007

"The most common killers may surprise you

Once again today, we are all struggling with reports about terrible losses of lives to gun violence. What a disturbed teenager in Utah and a tormented businessman in Pennsylvania have in common is that they had access to guns. Horrific mass killings cannot be committed with knives or baseball bats or bare fists. Weak gun laws have led to a glut of weapons on the streets. And as a result, bitter human frustrations lead to gun violence. Anger leads to killings. When will our Nation wake up and confront the tragic reality that we make it far too easy for dangerous people to have access to guns?

In Utah, two 28-year-old women, a 15-year-old girl, a 52-year-old man and 24-year-old man were killed by a shotgun-toting gunman.

Shotguns fire an extremely lethal large caliber round that delivers either a cloud of bullets (shot) or a single large slug. Sawed off and assault shotguns are popular with gangs and terrorists engaged in urban warfare- they have enormous knockdown power, and they don't even need to be aimed as the hail of shot will takes precision out of the equation. All it takes is ten minutes with a hacksaw and a shotgun can be turned into highly compact, concealable mayhem.

Shotguns used in World War One were so lethal, that governments such as Germany lobbied to ban them from organized warfare, because they were inhumane and extraordinarily dangerous.

The gun industry continues to try to market weapons such as the Jackhammer automatic shotgun, Streetsweepers, and other deadly weaponry that was deemed so dangerous, it isn't even labeled a firearm. They are destructive devices and regulated by the National Firearms Act. Does a "Destructive Device" sound like something you go duck hunting with? Unfortunately, with a few cosmetic tweaks, the same lethal weapons are manufactured for "sporting purposes."

Shotguns aren't the only deadly killer that the gun lobby has tried to wrap up in the American flag, history, and apple pie. What caliber kills more people every year in the U.S. than any other?

The .22.

22s are commonly found in three flavors. 22 short, 22 long and 22 Long Rifle. All of them are lethal. Most Saturday Night Specials come in .22 caliber. These handguns are not useful for sport or self-defense because their short barrels make them inaccurate and their low quality of construction make them dangerous and unreliable. They are, however, favored by criminals because of their low cost and easy concealability.

Let us repeat: more people are killed by the .22 every year, than any other caliber.

.22 are indeed deadly in shots to the body, because they don't go through entirely and they bounce off bones, creating more havoc. They have the ability to penetrate through gaps in law enforcement officer's kevlar, such as at the sides. If a .22 bullet enters the head, it will fatally ricochet around in the skull.

.22s are also the most easy of all the rounds to use with a silencer. They are a favorite of assassins performing mob kills, using a semi-automatic .22 or a revolver chambered in that caliber along with a silencer.

Creative criminals create penguns, cell-phone guns, knife guns, and more, all using the .22. It is truly the most dangerous of all calibers in terms of human cost per year, if not in mass and size. The tiny .22 can travel over a mile, and this fact is bragged about in promotional literature.

Many people are killed and injured by stray rounds traveling through the air and striking innocent victims, even children. Often people in the country will shoot off the back of their porch - exercising their rights, no doubt - and end up causing deadly harm to someone else's family.

Do cut-down shotguns and silenced .22s belong on our streets, or in our schools? Should criminals have a ready access to the more 'innocent' versions, ripe for conversion to more lethal configurations?

The Brady Campaign is making our stand to fight against the gun lobby, once and for all. We may not be able to eradicate murder in the human heart, but if we keep those who would terrorize our children and our malls from having easy access to deadly weapons, it will be worth it if but one child's life is saved."

"We may not be able to eradicate murder in the human heart, but if we keep those who would terrorize our children and our malls from having easy access to deadly weapons, it will be worth it if but one child's life is saved."
you mean make easy access harder for law abiding citizens instead of criminals.What a moron
 
Shotguns used in World War One were so lethal, that governments such as Germany lobbied to ban them from organized warfare, because they were inhumane and extraordinarily dangerous.

Unlike water-cooled machineguns, chlorine and mustard gases, flame-throwers, bayonets, grenades, and artillery shells, which really weren't any bother. NO. It was the SHOTGUNS that made world war I so dangerous.

Wakey wakey, Elmer Fudd, the antis want your shotgun and your kid's .22, too.

~GnSx
 
If a .22 bullet enters the head, it will fatally ricochet around in the skull.

uhh...I'm pretty sure that any round is likely to kill you if it GOES THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

cloud of bullets
:banghead: Do I even have to say anything?

They have the ability to penetrate through gaps in law enforcement officer's kevlar, such as at the sides.
Correct me if Im wrong, but do LEO kevlar vests even cover the sides?

Banning guns will only result in higher crime rates because the criminals will be the only ones with guns.
 
Full of lies and partial truths as usual - hopefully the avg american will finally realise that these people are extreme fringe fanatics and not their normal neighbors - once they get control of guns they wil go after control of something else until they control you completely.

This is about control not guns.

By attacking .22s and shotguns they may actually hurt themselves.
 
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.22s are also the most easy of all the rounds to use with a silencer. They are a favorite of assassins performing mob kills, using a semi-automatic .22 or a revolver chambered in that caliber along with a silencer.

Doggone silenced revolvers!

I'm amazed at how people question everything they see in movies, save for the capabilities of firearms.
 
I had a feeling after the last election that this group was going to stoke the furnace and crank up the ol' propaganda machine, redoubling their efforts. This piece...what can I say. Gangs and terrorists engaged in urban warfare?? Are they referring to American cities??? I ain't seen any of that lately, and live just south of Camden:what:
 
Quote: "Let us repeat: more people are killed by the .22 every year, than any other caliber."

Yeah, but more people are killed by car crashs than firearms. So if the goal is to save the most lives they should go after automobile safety issues.

More people are killed by doctors, through mistakes, each year than by firearms. So the BradyBunch should really go after medical reform, if they truly are concerned with saving the greatest number of lives each year.

Or they could focus on the war on drugs, if they want to help save lives. More lives are lost, and famlies ruined, because of alcohol and drug abuse than firearms. So their energy would be better spent on fighting and supporting the WoD and Alcohol abuse -- to save the most lives and prevent the most family trauma.

BUT, they don't care about saving lives, or preventing suffering, they only care about banning guns -- logic be damned!
 
Gee, I wonder if there will be any guns left uncondemned by the time this guy finishes :rolleyes:

Shotguns. 22lr. Hunting Rifles. Fifities. Sniper Rifles.

Anyone waiting with bated breath for an irrational diatribe on (1) cheap, small handguns (2) large, expensive handguns (3) Assault Weapons (4) Blackpowder & Antiques, et al.? :banghead:
 
Actually I'm sorta wondering if this _is_ really the Brady folks... Thus far the stuff is _really_ taking shots at the hunting crowd - sniper rifles, shotguns, etc... Could the owner of this blog be a 2nd amendment mobilzation guerilla?
 
Unlike water-cooled machineguns, chlorine and mustard gases, flame-throwers, bayonets, grenades, and artillery shells, which really weren't any bother. NO. It was the SHOTGUNS that made world war I so dangerous.

You may wish to find other points with which to take issue. Germany did file a protest against the US using shotguns, but not against any of the other things you mentioned.
 
Plausible Deniability

IMNSHO ...

This guy is probably a "paid blogger" that is not an "offical" member of Brady, so they can deny his lies, if they are ever questioned about it by a media outlet.

This way it's just the "considered opinion of a citizen", as opposed to an offical point of view by a not for profit organization. This way they can put out the bigeest lies and try and get away with it.

The mistake they are making is leaving their divide and conquer strategy. Now every gun club, trap range and plinker in America, that isn't hiding under a rock, will know that AR's and AK clones are just the first thing on their list for banning.

Your old side by side, trap gun and Marlin Model 60 will not be tolerated either.
 
If this is truly the Brady Bunch we need to ensure that this is in every single issue of Field & Stream from now on. The mask is off--they want all yours guns and they want them now. To paraphrase Richard Cohen, all weapons are assault weapons.

Flabby Flannels, can you hear the jackboots? They goosestep for thee.:evil:
 
I agree with a lot of the above. Pretty inflamatory stuff attacking hunters, not a smart move on the part of Brady.

IIRC, the blog is linked from the brady main website, so it is authentic.

Someone should save it before they delete it ;)
 
Look I don't care if this is the Real Brady, a Brady Copy-cat or Brady-wannabe.

Mis-information is wrong no matter who posts it.

Now while it is fine and dandy to make folks aware of these skewed post by Brady-Whomevers, once the information is shared, spend some time sending a email , letter or phone call to Reps and those that are elected to EDUCATE them correctly with True and verifiable information.

See, posting in Internet is great, still if all the elected Folks have to go by is Mis-Information posted by Brady, Soros, Peterson ..etc. That is going to influence how they vote, like on AWB2.

Add...

We do not need for Brady and Kind , Elected officials reading on an Internet forum all sorts of snide and tacky remarks.
Does not reflect well on THR, or on RKBA , or gun owners.

I am pretty sure recent events [Zumbo] proves that Internet is Real Time and folks like us can get motivated , be united and work toward a common goal.

WE do not need to act like a bunch of kindergarten kids acting up.
Zumbo-fiasco should be a springboard to get us all to put a bit of "spit and polish" in our posts, citing facts, and making an effort to be civil, polite, use spell-check and other tools to raise the bar in how we communicate and represent ourselves.

Give the antis only enough attention to educate ourselves and arm ourselves with knowledge from posted "mis-information".

Expend the rest of our time and energies - taking offensive actions.


Hey Brady! When are you going to ban bathrooms? That is where most of the accidents in the home occur?
You have a computer, Internet access - look it up for yourselves.

I am busy sending emails to Representatives with facts at the moment.

Steve
 
That blog is proof positive that the Brady bunch is going after all manner of guns. If they pick on the lowly .22, no gun is considered acceptable by them.

Shotguns fire an extremely lethal large caliber round that delivers either a cloud of bullets (shot) or a single large slug. Sawed off and assault shotguns are popular with gangs and terrorists engaged in urban warfare- they have enormous knockdown power, and they don't even need to be aimed as the hail of shot will takes precision out of the equation.

So where can I get one of these shotguns? All the guns I've ever used need to be aimed.
 
MySpace Brady: The gift that keeps on giving.

First they shatter the complacency of those few hunters and benchresters that thought their model 94s and scoped bolt actions were immune.

Now they offer a wake-up call to anyone holding one of those evil Holland & Holland double barrel "cloud of bullet doom" WMDs. The skeeters and trappers at my club are going to love this.


I agree with a lot of the above. Pretty inflamatory stuff attacking hunters, not a smart move on the part of Brady.

IIRC, the blog is linked from the brady main website, so it is authentic.

Someone should save it before they delete it
It needs mirrored.
 
If a .22 bullet enters the head, it will fatally ricochet around in the skull.

With your average paid Brady Campaign type biped the bullet will ricochet forever.....nothing in there to stop the darned thing...:neener:
 
Next thing you know they will want to ban black powder firearms because they cause global warming.

I posted a reply to there other 2 topics "Assault Rifles" and "Sniper Rifles". They didn't post them because the truth didn't set well with there cause. All I posted was Wikipedia's def. of both. So much for free speech!
 
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That shotgun deal is brilliant--"If it was good enough for the Kaiser Willhelm, it's good enough for you, sheepface!"

Because when you find yourself on the other side of the argument from the Kaiser's legions, you know you're wrong.


This guy knows that the German army was the enemy in WWI, right?
 
Somebody said:
If a .22 bullet enters the head, it will fatally ricochet around in the skull.
And gopguy said:
With your average paid Brady Campaign type biped the bullet will ricochet forever.....nothing in there to stop the darned thing...
Hee, hee! Beat me to it, and said it better. Classic!

Terminally Misinformed Blogger said:
All it takes is ten minutes with a hacksaw and a shotgun can be turned into highly compact, concealable mayhem.
Um, already outlawed since what, 1934?
Horrific mass killings cannot be committed with knives or baseball bats or bare fists.
Or box cutters either, right?
I know what to do: Ban airplanes!
Whaddamaroon. :rolleyes:
 
Actualy I think one of the most telling things to be concerned about regarding future legislation is this:

Unfortunately, with a few cosmetic tweaks, the same lethal weapons are manufactured for "sporting purposes."

This shows they will not make the mistake of the last "Assault Weapon" Ban and allow some to slip through the cracks based on cosmetics. They have been educated by the gun crowd (repeatedly showing them how foolish they are) that they have primarily been attacking cosmetic differences. If an AR is banned don't expect a Mini-14 to be legal in future legislation.

They would likely even succeed in keeping any sunset clause out of such legislation, which if had happened originaly we would all still have the federal assault weapon ban. As you can see many people will stand up and fight the original fight, but once it is on the books, they shift to protecting something still legal and that fight is much more difficult if not lost altogether.

We have an anti congress, soon to likely have an anti president.

The Utah shooter was loading 2 rounds at a time, so even an over under or a side by side would have accomplished the same thing. They are also easier to shorten as they don't have transfer bars, a tubular magazine, or a lengthy action. I bring this up because they will not stop banning more and more weapons ever, and there will always be criminals making use of even our most limited functional firearms to give fuel to the fire. So there will always be events to highlight the most prevalent firearms in criminal use and massacres for additional legislation. They do the same over certain types of swords and knives in places that have banned guns already.
 
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