The Consolidated White Wing Gun Control Debate

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Hey white wing you say we could or should change our attitude toward guns and not use them for self defense but instead learn to lay them down and then dispose of them. What about those of us that really love to take them out to the range or in to the field and use them. They are, after all not just for self defense. I will never change my mind about shooting, I love doing it.
As far as criminals not using them during a crime if they can't be legally owned. That's just a pipe dream, criminals are criminals because they ignore laws and will kill you with whatever is available. Finally the 2nd amendment was written into the constitution by the founding fathers to protect a right that they believed already existed.....they didn't grant it to us they only sought to protect it.
I guess the only other thing I might add is that some people just don't understand why we like our guns.....the answer is we just do and we don't understand why others don't but we don't go around trying to convince them to change their minds about it or try to use crooked, behind the back schemes to make them come over to our side. We don't demonize people that don't own guns, we leave them alone. We however are constantly demonized and belittled by a national press that literally hates us for no good reason. Crimes are comitted by a very small segment of the population. If all the gun owners were criminals we would be tripping over bodies every where and our homes would be boarded up and look like fortresses.
 
+1 to NonServiam.

I was going to say something about the Norwegian Resistance, and the need for small arms following confiscation by the Nazi occupying forces, but a comment by a Norwegian is just so much more effective. :)

Considering our history reaches so far back to oppression (1700's), I can almost understand why some US citizens don't understand that freedom may have to be bought with blood, that it's continued existence is not guaranteed. But Norway has a fairly recent history of oppression, so I'm surprised at WW's position.

Glad to hear that he may be a minority in Norway...
 
M.D. Woods,

Did you check the date of the last post?

Seriously, why did you call a FIVE year old thread back from the grave?



Oh...and welcome to The High Road.
 
I am against the right to carry arms, and an institutionalized method of self
defence.

Hope you are kind on me... :rolleyes:

Uh, using the rolleyes icon at the beginning of a debate more or less indicates that you don't want debate; you just want to tell us we are wrong.


that with guns being so institutionalized within a community, the views of a gun's use is lightened so to speak. If everybody is familiar with guns, have them in their home, and it is a usual means of self defence; what also becomes natural is to carry one for a crime.

I am familiar with guns, own many of them, and grew up in a home with guns. I do not carry or own guns for the purpose of committing crime and am frankly rather insulted that you think that way of me and my fellow board members. I think you owe us an apology for insulting our honor like that.

Furthermore, I imagine that far more cars than guns are involved in crime in Norway. Cars are undoubtedly institutionalized within Norwegian society, Norwegians are familiar with them, many Norwegians own them, and it is therefore natural for Norwegians to use cars to commit crime. Cars are not only excellent tools for evading law enforcement and transporting stolen goods but are also highly lethal weapons when steered by a determined killer or packed full of explosives. They are also highly valuable pieces of property in their own right as well and thus subject to theft. As such, I see no reason for a civilized society to own cars, which are undoubtedly multipurpose crime committing tools as well as motivating criminals to commit crime.

ETA: Now if only I'd been in on this party when it happened.
 
Wow

It's a zombie thread.

A shambling zombie thread.

B-r-r-r-a-a-a-a-a-i-i-i-i-n-n-n-n-s-!

Sorry, what? Oh, fresh out, old chap. Shuffle off now.

I just have to wonder what piece of sorcery revived THIS piece of history.

But I'll never find out.

'Cause the thread's closed now.
 
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