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The correct name for 30.06 ?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by tercel89, Mar 25, 2010.

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  1. tercel89

    tercel89 Member

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    WHat is the correct pronunciation for the caliber .30.06 ?
    People say "thirty ought six" all the time and I dont understand .
    I am a part-time/hobby mechanic and I deal with numbers and letters when determaning things and in engines , you got to be specific , and to me I call it "thirty zero six" .
    What is the proper way to say this cartidge ? It has bugged me for 20 yrs!
    When we use 00 buck for qualifications at work , I always say "double zero buck" and people look at me weird . It too has the word "ought" . Why is this ?
     
  2. jimmyraythomason

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    it was accepted by the United States military in 19aught6 not 19zero6..
     
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  3. ShootinDave

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    Its a 30 cal..... released in 1906.

    30.06

    Ought is an old english expression for "zero".
     
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    My great-great grandfather isn't around to ask how it caught on, but it did.

    If you want to be so esoteric that being correct is more important than people knowing what the heck you are talking about, you can call it the 7.62x63.
     
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    ought means zero

    i have always said ought

    edit - you guys are fast
     
  6. gondorian

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    Because zero represents a quantity of nothing, and aught means nothing, so people say aught to represent zero, which is nothing (sort of). As far as I know ought usually means should, not nothing.
     
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    watch a few english football matches... ought = nil = zero
     
  8. ArmedBear

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    It's not 30.06, though. That's a law code in Texas, I think.

    It's .30-06 or .30-'06 Springfield, meaning .30 caliber, M1906 (the military designation of the original standard cartridge, adopted in 1906), Springfield Armory.
     
  9. Bartholomew Roberts

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    The etymology is ought comes from the word aught (meaning zero or nothing) which is an alteration of the words "a naught" being run together in English. At least that is what Merriam-Webster says.

    It does remind me that every now and then I would hear some old timer call it "thirty-nawt six"
     
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    You are correct ArmedBear but unless you live in Texas 30.06 means nothing. When I first saw that being posted about I had to scratch my head until I learned they weren't talking about a caliber. Having said that though anytime I see 30.06,.30-06 or even .30-'06 I'm pretty sure a caliber of rifle is being talked about.
     
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    At least tennis players didn't have anything to do with it, otherwise it could be pronounced 'thirty love six'. :p
     
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    Although... The way some people talk about that caliber it might be appropriate.
     
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    Well, don't be such a left-brained, math-minded robot. You need to get some art! 30-06 is as artful a name as you'll find anywhere.
     
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    I am prone to calling it the thirty-oh-six just to be different and to make sure the fellas are paying attention.

    Sometimes I will say seven millimeter ought eight as well for the same reasons.
     
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    Seems like much ado about 'nothing' to me.
     
  16. tercel89

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    thanks guys , that helps a bunch !
     
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    ...and well they should! lol

    Say it like you want...but it is thirty-ought-six! You ought to know that...oughten you?

    Back in nineteen and ought six.... you young guys just do not git it! lol
     
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    OK so if'n it's Thirty Ought Six because it was adopted in 19 ought six, why is it .45-70?

    .45-70 was adopted in 1873 :evil:

    Well, the "70" was the grains of blackpowder used in the load.

    So I guess the naming convention switched when they went to smokeless?

    And no, it doesn't matter, but it's interesting.
     
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    The correct name is "United States Cartridge, Caliber .30, Model of 1906."
     
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    To further complicate the issue.
    The 1903 Springfield for which the original 30-03 caliber was invented, was/is called the Oh Three or 03 Springfield. Not the Aught three, Naught three, or Zero three Springfield.
    Then the cartridge was redesigned and the new 30-06 caliber adopted in 1906.

    So you now have an Oh Three Springfield shooting a Thirty Aught Six.
    Not the Thirty Oh Six.

    Clear as mud, right?

    rc
     
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    7.62 x 63 :D
     
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    .30-30 is the anomaly then. First centerfire smokeless rifle cartridge (1894), yet the nomenclature would leave you to believe 30 grains of black powder. I don't think it was ever a black powder cartridge?
     
  23. ArmedBear

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    It never was. But neither was the earlier .30-40 Krag.:) The .30-30 was the first commercial smokeless cartridge. The .30-30 used 30 grains of smokeless; the .30-40 used 40 grains.

    I believe that it soon became apparent that there would be many kinds of smokeless powder, so powder weight no longer meant anything. The old BP naming convention was then dropped, and we ended up with cartridge names that are made for the trivia buff. They're not all that shooter-friendly, with a few exceptions.

    If you were to ask someone who didn't know about rifles to sort .30-30, .30-06, .308 Winchester, .30 TC, .300 RCM, .300 WSM, .300 WinMag, .300 WbyMag, .300 SAUM, .300 RUM, etc. in order of velocity, it wouldn't be easy.:)
     
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    Is it a scale a rule or ruler. Old time die maker.
     
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