The election is effectively over. What are your gun plans?

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All I can say is, C'mon Kel-Tec - please work round the clock to crank out a working RFB - I'm beggin' ya! :)

And it ain't over until the fat lady sings, and the Supreme court rules in Obama vs. McCain a la 2000.
 
Ready On The Right-Ready On The Left; The Firing Line Is Ready

Already have my COLT Match Target H-Bar, tricked out Ruger Mini-14,
Ruger 10/22, and Remington 12 gague 870 Marine Magnum; plus quite
an assortment of handguns~! ;) :D

MCain-Palin on Nov. 4th~!
 
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If Obama wins, you....we..... will eventually lose our rights to own anything but a shotgun. Semi-auto "miltary style" rifles.......forgetaboutit. First off, those old liberals on the Supreme Court will retire. They're replaced with Ginsberg type judges. Since the Democrats will probably have a majority of the senate and all the committee chairmanships, whomever they pick will sail through the confirmation. Next, the left wing in this country does what they do best when it comes to going around the will of the people. It's called pretense. They will create a legal scenario that will purposely lose in the lower courts, so that the case can be heard in an appeals court (one that was pre-selected, before they filed the lower court case....preselected to lose again that is). This technique has been used for a number of high profile amendment type cases in the past. Next, since the U.S. Supreme Court is majority left, skies the limit in terms of hocus pocus to severely limit your 2nd amendment rights. I would have a strategy to store guns and ammunition and hope that strategy never needs to be used. You'll have to decide if you want to break the law or not and risk the "brown-shirts" banging on your door. :(
 
Unfortunately, redrover speaks very wisely. :mad:

With one term in office and a willing Congress, our RKBA will go from existing, 5-4, to not existing, 4-5, or 3-6. With two terms in office, the RKBA will go from existing 5-4, to not existing, 3-6 or possibly even 2-8.
 
Who responds to polls? The Jerry Springer crowd, that's who. People who are home to answer the phone, while the rest of us are working. And you know which way they lean...

Count me as another single-issue voter. Well, almost (the blatant socialism bothers me too). Really, we have to consider that the next president is likely to appoint two Supreme Court justices, so it is important that they are aligned with our views in THIS term, even if other things end up suffering for a bit.
 
Serious question - no flames

I'm going to try to ask this without sounding like I've given up or am resolved to defeat. This is an honest question...

Some of you are planning on making AR/AK/semi-auto/high-cap purchaes out of the assumption You-Know-Who gets elected. Good idea - planning ahead.

But what if (I realize the danger of playing "what if," so this is devil's advocate here) the party of You-Know-Who isn't content with just a repeat of the old AWB which banned purchases, but goes whole-hog after owning such firearms? You just invested major dollars in what is now illegal-to-own paperweights. [Yeah, I know... "What paperweights??? This backhoe just happened to drop by and dig this odd-shaped hole in the back pasture...]

Better to spend the money and hope for the best, or save the money on hardware and stock up on ammo & software just in case even ownership of AK/AR/etc becomes an issue? I know, too, this becomes a slippery slope...then why buy anything at all if they take 'em all.

I'm sure others have asked such a question, but a) I'm too tired and b) too busy to try to find those threads. I see Academy has ARs for <$700...thats almost affordable. But would I be better off buying $700 worth of powder & lead???

(BTW: where's a good place to get a basic knowledge of AR-type weapons? Upper? Lower? Receiver? What's the diff??? - Those kind of questions...)

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I was thinking about getting a M-1A National Match in January, after Christmas, before Obozo gets into office. It's one of the few semiautomatic rifles I want and don't own yet, because of its higher price.
 
Nothing different. Being in the Democratic Peoples Republic of California I already live in a post-Obama Utopia. Probably order another C & R bolt or 2 to drown my sorrows.:(
 
Obama will almost certainly win. He won't immediately move to constrain access to guns, because he has other priorities, and because his majority in congress will include a large number of "blue dogs," who are at least superficially pro-2nd. But the overall strategy here is to "relabel" overtly socialistic and statist ends as something else. So they've relabeled socialism as "social justice" and "multiculturalism" making it exceedingly difficult to place a proper label on Obama even though his familiars include former domestic "new left" terrorists like Ayers and Dorhn. It's really difficult to argue against "social justice" or "multiculturalism" and even more difficult to define.

So they won't attack 2nd Amendment rights frontally. They'll use a stealth strategy, relabelling the issue in some critical way, constraining access to amunation rather than guns, etc..

Obama will almost certainly win. There's such a tide in his favor at this point, as a result not only of the relabeling of leftist idealism, but due to a kind of "perfect storm" of economic and finance issues, that holding on to the chance of on upset amounts to a kind of denial.

You'd be better advised to attack the relabeling program directly. You may not win a huge number of converts this way, but you should be able to at least "hold the line" awhile. Moreover, if "social justice" is an ambiguous term, one could appropriate it, just as the "progressives" appropriated the term "liberal." That's the Achilles Heel of their strategy.

Sorry. Didn't mean to distract.
 
I have a lot of guns, but it may become illegal for you to make your own ammunition, or you will have to get a license to buy gunpowder. I really enjoy the freedom of shooting my guns whether I can buy a new one or not.
 
all this talk about buying this ar that ak the other ammo and mags,,,

the real question is whos going to be waiting for the redcoats ready to shed some blood when they come for the toys and whos going to help the atfes load them into the vans destined to the metal shreaders.

the answer decides what this nation will be in the future.
 
There's such a tide in his favor at this point

Not necessarily the DNC free press, NBC,CBS ABC tells us that but they
are not the people far from it they live in a glass bubble, anyway I marked
my x for McCain today with the wish that we may retain some freedom
for the next 4 years.
As others have said I will take a mediocre republican over a socialist any day,
for I wish to see the 2nd amendment remain in its present form.
 
WHATEVER !

Ain't gonna Happen !


I'll bet there are more last second "recants" than you are willing to bet.........

Any way, I am gonna stock up on ammo and buy whatever they say I can't have !
 
why buy anything at all if they take 'em all.
The expectation, from prior US efforts in this sort of thing, is that existing stocks will be grandfathered and only the future manufacture and transfer would be prohibited. That's a pretty safe bet.

Even if they make possession of a prohibited item illegal (as opposed to simply prohibiting the transfer), they would likely be unable to pass such a bill without providing some form of recompensation for the arms that were confiscated. That's what happened in Australia and the UK, for example.

In short - if I buy it now, theres an very high probability that I will be able to keep it indefinitely for my own purposes, or worst case scenario will be compensated for its loss.
 
I wonder how gov. would respond to millions of armed gunowners on there front yard should the dems lose there mind completely.

food for thought.
 
I'm not going to be specific, but we all know who is going to win in November
Last Rassmussen polls of Florida and Ohio were actually good news for gun owners. Get out and vote, especially in swing states! Also, the pro-gun candidates historically tend to do better than the polls suggest.
 
The people who think Dems won’t touch gun control are unbelievable- if current election predictions turn out to be true, the Dems will win big enough to claim a mandate, and for years now their platform has called for an AWB. All we can do is dig in and fight the best we can- face it, we’ve had it easy the last 8 years.

There is a more immediate concern though. Obama’s thugs have been promised a great deal, and they think they are entitled- if McCain wins there will be violence. If you live in a predominately Democratic area, and your ‘neighbors’ know you are a McCain supporter you’d better start thinking defensively.
 
Aw, come on guys, I didn't mean to start a political discussion, just telling people not to give up. Until we do, it's going to be very hard for politicians to unreasonably restrict our guns.
 
Hi John Galt,

As far as I'm concerned, Obama has said that the 2nd Amendment grants an individual right to bear arms,

He is also trained as a Chicago Democrat. A city well known for it's 'common sense gun control.' As someone far wiser than I once said: The fact he's a politician means you take what he says with a grain of salt- a Chicago Democrat you throw in the whole shaker.
 
Not gonna give up Jimbo.

I think the Dems just rolled out the wrong guy. There are many other candidates that could have filled the bill much better, but they got "token".;) That's why J McC picked Mrs. Palin. Wanna play rough ?

It doesn't matter who is elected, I'm gonna keep on doing what I have always done until notified otherwise.
 
Ummm.....The election is effectively over. What are your gun plans?

I agree . Before and under the McCain administration i have quit selling any guns . As an old gun trader i am laying in a stock of both rifles , and handguns that might accept a mag over 10 rounds . Oh did i forget to mention i have a pallet load or so of AR mags ?? . If it is all illegal well i guess the price of metal detectors will go up .... for all the good it will do them . Hell you cant reliably define areas to dig for my place with a mag , and i would apprecate the feds digging where they think things are buried . There is only 3k acres , and the little hard turned trenches going to old houses so good luck guys lol .

Point is that the only friend gun owners have in this election is a heart beat away . And just how good a friend she is is unproven .
 
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