The improving sigma trigger

[Troy26]

I'm on a more than tight budget, so the Sigma 9unless I find a used gem) is probably about as good as I'm going to do right now.

Like everyone else, I've heard the trigger is terrible, but my question is exactly what all can I do to improve upon the trigger, and how much difference would those improvements make?

Thanks

-Troy

 

[Heck]

The trigger pull is looooong and heaavy. You can replace the stiker spring to a lighter weght but have heard that can cause some issues with light strikes on ammo with hard primers. That being said the gun is very reliable and can be shot accurately with practice

 

[WVfishguy]

I've written this before...

The SW9VE is pretty much the same as the .40.

I got my SW40VE 'cause it was cheap. Plus, I loved the ergos and 14-round capacity.

The trigger was so bad, I was determined to master it. Dry-fired the Hell out of it, and fired hundreds of rounds.

This is the secret: Dry fire it often. Shoot it a lot. You'll become a good shot AND loosen the trigger at the same time.

Now the trigger is about half as heavy as it was. It still takes a good pull, but it's smooth.

When it comes to target shooting, the SW40VE still won't compete with my other .40s - a Walther P99, Bersa and Steyr. But for SD, I feel very confident with the Smith.

It's just as reliable as the others, perhaps more so, since I had one failure to feed and I've shot the SW40VE more than the others. In fact, the SW40VE has been so reliable, I was shocked at the FTF.

The SW40VE is also my favorite .40 to carry; light weight, stainless steel and snag-free. Plus, the "heavy" trigger negates the need for a manual safety.

I'd buy another.

 

[plateshooter]

"This is the secret: Dry fire it often. Shoot it a lot. You'll become a good shot AND loosen the trigger at the same time.

Now the trigger is about half as heavy as it was. It still takes a good pull, but it's smooth."

I completely agree with the above quote. I think it is the perfect pull for my CCW gun. Not so great for a target gun, but I have others for that purpose.

I have had my 9GVE for about 3 years, and I would guess have about 1K rounds through it now. It is amazing how accurate you can get with it after shooting it for awhile.

 

[havoc7usmc]

Sigma sv40

I love mine. It's amazing how many people will bag on this gun and refer to it as a glock knock off, well maybe it is, but it has been just as reliable as any other pistol that I've carried. I've recently retired mine and now carry the M&P subcompact CCW. IMHO I think the barrel's are a little stronger then the glocks and as prone to go KABOOM. I'm not a glock hater, have three of them and like them too.

 

[Chuckulator]

Look and you will find instructions on removing one of the trigger springs. This makes a big difference.

Enjoy your Sigma!

 

[wnycollector]

I shot my 1st sigma .40 yesterday and all I can say is........thats a LONG trigger pull! On the plus side the gun was very accurate. The guy who bought the sigma picked it up for $250 and he seems happy with it!

 

[Deanimator]

That seems like an artificially narrow choice. There are plenty of other good pistols available for a reasonable price:

Surplus SIG P6
Police surplus Glock 17s, 19s, 22, and 23s
RIA M1911s.

If it were me, I'd go with a used Glock from somebody like Summit Gun Broker. I've got an ex-VA Beach Sheriff's Dept. Glock 19 that I got from Summit. It's a great gun which I got at a very reasonable price. I believe it came with three magazines too.

Other people have lots of good things to say about the SIGs and the RIAs. I don't have any problems with used guns. Most of my handguns were purchased used. If you HAVE to have new, think about RIA.

 

[wnycollector]

I have a SIG P6...prior to a spring change, its DA trigger pull was almost as heavy as the Sigma's. After changing to a lower weight (#18lb wolff) the SIGs DA trigger is great!

 

[Grantonius]

i JUST bought a brand new sigma 9mm friday, and the trigger pull is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. maybe its because i dont have alot of 1911 or glock experience, or that ive mostly shot revolvers, but im realy happy with it

 

[Elvishead]

Heck The trigger pull is looooong and heaavy. You can replace the stiker spring to a lighter weght but have heard that can cause some issues with light strikes on ammo with hard primers. That being said the gun is very reliable and can be shot accurately with practice

The trigger is not as bad as a lot of people say (Girly men), it's a great gun, considering it's a pistol, and it will be ("In defense") used at close quarters

My Sigma was and is a great gun, although I sold mine to my brother and updated, we both agree it's a great gun.

Like Heck said you can change to a lighter sticker spring for about $10 from Wolff.

TBS, it shoots great to 15 yards, but after that (but who cares, it for SD), it get a little more challenging.

 

[wankerjake]

I love my Sigma 9mm. Bought it for the same reason you are thinking about it. It took a few hundred rounds to get used to, but it is very manageable. I shoot great with it and prefer it to my Sig P6. Blasphemy, I know. I'll get pics posted one of these days for all the naysayers out there. Buy that sucker if you haven't already and have fun!!!

 

[camsdaddy]

I will be following this thread. I held one the other day and was suprised by the trigger. I told the guy I really liked it I just wasnt sure about the trigger. I was wondering what could be done to fix it and then it would be a pretty cool pistol.

 

[Baneblade]

Some agencies (very few) require 12# triggers in their duty guns. The officers who practice and dry fire the crap out of them do just fine.

As was said before, train with it, dry fire it, live fire. You will lighten the trigger while becoming adjusted to it. The Sigma is a very good value and S&W has awesome service.

 

[basicblur]

I'd have to second that!

The officers who practice and dry fire the crap out of them do just fine.

Mebbe I'm just not young enough to have jumped on the hair trigger bandwagon (learned how to shoot with double-action revolvers) but I've never been particularly trigger sensitive, 'specially since all my guns are for SD.
Long and/or heavy pulls never seemed to bother me, as long as they're smooth.

'Bout 1/2 way through Ayoob's latest book (Concealed Carry) and had to laugh at his section on the obsession with hair triggers for SD weapons. His exact quote is "Anyone that tells you it's impossible to shoot well with these guns (6 to 10 lb pull range) doesn't know how to shoot".
He has examples of folks winning competitive shoots with heavy triggers vs competition with 3.5 lb. triggers, as well as targets shot SA and DA with the same revolver (little/no difference).

BTW...got a couple of Sigmas myself and have no complaints about the trigger.

 

[Bill2e]

What are you buying the GUN for?

The Sigma is perfect for it's intended use. Sure the trigger is heavy (just like a long double action revolver) It goes bang when YOU tell it to.

SIGMA's are fine guns, If you want a little more bells & whisles save another $150 and get the M&P