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The circumstances in which secession would be welcomed or feasible would be emotional, explosive. We are not there. Yet.

I like McClintock, Tancredo, others. But I believe, joining other posters, that Condi Rice has the best chance of actually winning in a head-to-head against Hillary. And we already know her position on 2A.
 
I walked up on a discussion about Condi for President at a local auction this afternoon.

Out of several semi-rednecked SE Nebraska folks, everybody seemed to favor the idea of her as President. Nobody had anything negative to say about the idea, and in this neck of the woods (uni-racial) it's not uncommon to hear older folks use the "N-word" once in awhile in public. There was also unaminous agreement that Hillary was a no-go.

One of the guys asked me if I'd be willing to work on a local effort to organize a campaign for Condi. I gave him my name & #. Don't know if it will go anywhere, but she's the first potential candidate in my adult life that I'd be willing to support with more than just a vote.

I think Mitt Romney is a reasonably OK guy...better in my book than McCain or Gulliani, although I don't think it would be the end of the world if Gulliani were to become President.
 
Far as Rice and her stand on the 2nd amendment don't bet you know it. Did she say anything about the illegal confiscation of guns in New Orleans? Wouldn't a true supporter of the 2nd be raising some H**L over that happened? I look at her as a Bush appointed person. Other words if she wasn't like GWB she wouldn't be were she is. I guess you could look at her as being on the side of the Constitution if you believe GWB is on the side of the Constitution. I for one if I vote will vote 3rd party. Better to vote your belief then who you think is the lesser of two evils. With the Republicans in control of both houses and in the white house I for one am waiting for them to do something to show they are on our side. Sofar all i've seen is the Constitution going down the tubes. I voted for GWB twice but wish I voted 3rd party or stayed home. I for one can't see how we would be in worst shape as a nation if he would have lost
 
It's true that Rice got a hand-up from W. and is part of the Bush team. But where Bush and Condi R. differ is that Condi had significant accomplishments in her own right pre-Bush, not just significant friends.

How many major political figures have ever described themselves as "Second Amendment absolutists?" Those folks are few and far-between these days.
 
Hmmmm.....Couple of Opinions

In no specific order, the following would likely make us proud:

Fred Thompson - former Senator from Tennessee (kicks ass & takes names)
Rudy Juliani - former Mayor of New York (can rally and inspire us)
Condoleeza Rice - most intelligent in D.C. (American bootstrap success story)
J.C. Watts - former Congressman from Oklahoma (American success story)
Oliver North - USMC Retired (hero, patriot, kicks ass & takes names)
Sean Hannity - conservative talk show host (patriot, promotes freed)
My brother Joe -- General and All-Around Squared Away Guy (all the above)
 
I voted for GWB twice but wish I voted 3rd party or stayed home. I for one can't see how we would be in worst shape as a nation if he would have lost
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I have one word for you:

"John Forbes Kerry"

Get real people. Say this: "Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of The United States of America".

Put your protest votes aside; there is real danger, right in front of you. W is not perfect, but there are worse choices.
 
yes sherm, sometimes you are forced into the lesser of two evils.

But latly, dubya has been pissing me off
 
Captain Mike, with all due respect, Fred Thompson allowed himself to let John Glenn run out the clock during the Senate hearings on foreign contributions to the Clinton campaign. Glenn got another ride on a space ship for his loyalty, and Thompson disappeared into oblivion.

Rudy Giuliani won't win many votes outside NYC.

J.C. Watts is unknown, except for those who watch Fox.

Oliver North? The only thing that people know about him is that he did something bad. They can't tell you what it was, but that's what the press has told them for seventeen years.
 
Werewolf said:
[*]Force Congress to establish a fast track appeals court that only deals with death penalty cases. Each death penalty would get one automatic appeal to the court and if upheld would be executed within 7 days. The execution would be public and be televised by all visual media live. This would make the death penalty an actual deterent.

Any other suggestions for my platform?

Werewolf for PRESIDENT in 2008! Hoooooooowwwwwwlllllll!
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Have you ever read the book "Truth Machine" (or something along those lines)?

Such an idea was implemented, the "swift and sure" plan. It lead to huge increases in murder rates as professional criminals killed all possible witnesses.
Never mind the fact that they were executing at least ten times as many innocent people as before under the new plan.
 
Interesting that Condi Rice's name comes up so often .. I would vote for her in a heartbeat over Hilary .

Also there seems to be an underlying concern of Hilary getting the democratic nomination and being elected president. I think that is a ligitiment fear ,and all to possible nightmare.

McCain seems to be a Democrat in a see through disguise . If the Democrats weren't after the distruction of the 2nd amendment as a party plateform ,as well as individual basis , it would maybe help open the field up.

This could be a real hard election . In my opinion we have come far enough down the 2 party system into a state of political corruption that will be impossible to change without major reform . I see few options for that reform.
 
I have decided that I would prefer not to have Condi Rice because I don't think she would have a productive relationship with Congress. We should be reminded that she had a tough confirmation as Secrerary of State. Being pro-gun is not enough, but I certainly understand the attraction to her. I think Elizabeth Dole or Kay Bailey Hutchison, each Senators and seasoned politicians, would be a better President.

I would prefer that gender not be a deciding factor, so I do think it is important to counter Hillary with another woman. I don't think women always vote on real politics....the kind that actually run the country, protect and promote the economy, and keep the country secure. With all due respect, a President has to be more than likable. Having two women neutralizes the draw on female voters that only one would have and restores the debate to issues.
 
If Ted Nugent were to run, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
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I wouldn't feel good about being a single issue voter or in believing a rock star was remotely qualified.
 
I have decided that I would prefer not to have Condi Rice because I don't think she would have a productive relationship with Congress.
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Welllll...

That might not be such a bad thing. I imagine a president that used the veto pen quite liberally would be very effective if for no other reason than a congress that can't legislate can't screw things up more than they already are.

On the other hand given that the congress expects a presidential veto one of two things would happen:

They'd just stop bothering with any legislation that they weren't assured had 2/3 support - a good thing.

Or

They'd pass legislation normally and then just automatically override all vetoes - scary.
 
I don't think a President who has a contentious relationship with Congress is necessarily a bad thing. Has GW even vetoed 1 bill from Congress?

One of my chief complaints about the Republicans is that despite holding the White House and majority in both the House & Senate they continue to let the Democrats set the agenda with their propaganda. The Republicans don't have enough gonads to call them out, then tell them to sit down and shut up. If the shoe were on the other foot it would be a totally different story. Kennedy, Schumer, Rangle, and Pelozi et al would run roughshod over the Republicans with great glee and reckless abandon!

Elizabeth Dole or Kay Baily Hutchinson would be just more of the same milktoast we're getting from GW.

We need a President who will tell it like it is, and go for the throat.
 
Ron Paul & Mark Sanford - Good Choices for us, but not many people beyond us know about them.

Condi Rice - Good choice again for us, but non-elected, non-executive types don't really get the experience needed to convince voters they can do the job...governors generally get the nod.

McCain & Gulliani - RINOs in the extreme. I don't see much difference between them and Hillary on 2A issues.

Zell Miller - Would win in a heartbeat, but would he run. Senators have a lot of baggage they carry around. I'd vote Dem for the first time in my life.

My dream team sees Condi as VP to gain executive branch experience and for her own run down the road. Top of the ticket can be just about anybody and they would win....the problem is I don't see anyone of Condi's quality with the national exposure right now that would be worth voting for....

Paul/Rice, Sanford/Rice all sound great.

But we'll probably wind up with something like McCain/Bush.....gag.
 
Still can't believe that anyone who really supports the 2nd amendment in goverment could be quite with what went on in New Orleans. If someone can be quiet with that going on no way will they support the 2nd amendment if in office.

Far as one said the Democrats are setting the agenda nothing could be farther from the truth. What is going on in the country is exactly what the Republicans want to go on. The Patroit act the homeland security the war campaign reform the lack of Pro Gun Bills. Oh least we forget about the illegals when everything i've see says 70-80% of the Americans want the borders closed.The trouble is the Republicans in control of the White House that the Senate and Congress. When they try to blame the Democrats for what is going on they look like a bunch of morons. I voted Republican all my life. Since 911 looking at what is going on in this country I can say the Republicans are every bit as much the enemy of our Constitution as the Democrats are.
 
lostone 1413 said, "Still can't believe that anyone who really supports the 2nd amendment in goverment could be quite with what went on in New Orleans."

What "went on" didn't last long enough for it to come to the attention of the Secretary of State. Sure, idiots babbled, but it all got shut down pretty darned quickly.

The SecState has more to do than to worry about a teapot tempest, given the state of today's world. It's not like she has time to sit around on the Internet and offer opinions on everything that goes on, here there and yonder.

Art
 
So I seen it on the news read about it in the paper but the Secretary Of State knew nothing about it? Oh more important things then upholding the constitution? Guess that is why we have
1-Campaign Reform
2-Patroit Act
3-Homeland Security
4-CAFTA
5-Open Borders

A goverment that now wants
1-Full authority of the national guard in an emergency
2-monitor what you read
3-A national ID

Say your right! We do have allot in office with so much on their mind Guess they just don't have time to uphold something as meaningless as the Constitution. So much for the Republic. Well when we as a people don't demand the Constitution be upheld I guess we don't deserve it anyway
 
I don't get the tirade about Rice and the gun confiscations in NO.

Secretary of State has nothing to do with what takes place in NO.

I also did not hear anything about it out of the Secretaries of Defense, Commerce, Agriculture, Housing & Urban Development, Education, TREASURY, ATTORNEY GENERAL, etc.

It's not her job to swing at every pitch when she's not even at bat.

I realize that this a firearms related forum, but having a rigid 2A litmus test is gonna leave you with a very tiny field of acceptable candidates. 2A is never going to command the attention of the economy, health care, social security, homeland security, and foriegn policy. If it were that big of an issue in the grand scheme of things, we'd have already heard the "Shot Heard 'Round the World", reduex.

I think that the pendulem is swinging in the proper direction, but it takes time. It took 60 yrs ('34 to '94) to get as far left as it did.
 
Fred Thompson also was somehow in cahoots with mccain.I might vote for someone who would make Pat Buccanhan sec. of state
 
Think the pendulem is swinging in the proper direction? Better read some of the bills passed since 911. Next i'll hear how Pro Gun GWB and the AG are
 
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