The Untactical Advantage

[smle41]

Upon rereading the first post, a Remington 740 series, or a BAR. I can vouch for the BAR as a superlative rifle.

 

[Jenrick]

Second vote for an SMLE, it looks very similar to generations of hunting rifles. To an anti they have no clue that it's one of the fastest bolt actions in the world, and can mount a stupdily large bayonet (depending on the model and mk). .303 British will drop any kind of predator you run into on most continents. For the mid sized thin skin game being discussed, .303 British can reach out to 1K+ if you can call the wind and see that well. Second vote would be a lever gun or other "old western" appearing firearm. .44 or .357 out of a rifle length barrel will take care of any problems in that game size out past 200 yds. Particularly the new Leverolution stuff Hornaday is putting out.

Really any good old milsurp that looks like a wood stocked hunting rifle, or a western gun is going to go right past most anti's without a blink.

-Jenrick

 

[Hootus]

I came to the conclusion that a lever gun in a pistol caliber with a long tube magazine was the best weapon for this role. That's why a Marlin in 44 magnum with a Williams aperture sight rides in the trunk of my car. Light, handy, ergonomic and easy to transport. The magazine is slow to reload when empty but single rounds can be fed through the loading port fairly easily.

I came to this conclusion following a post-Katrina discussion on rec.guns about the guns least likely to be considered "threatening" based on appearance. Smart idea? Who knows, but it's a neat little rifle and I'm always happy to have a justification for buying a new gun.

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This. Almost my exact thinking when I bought my Rossi .44 mag carbine. It has a higher capacity than a 30-30, is actually a very tiny/light/fast rifle, can shoot .44 Specials for light loads or .44 mags at 1750fps for serious work, and doesn't seem to scare anyone like those death-dealing evil black rifles do. I installed Skinner peep sights on mine and am very pleased with it.

 

[mwurman]

Hmm may be extreme...but i'll take my old Savage 116 BSS .300 Rem Ultra Mag...git er dun!

 

[witchhunter]

Yup, Winchester 94 .30/30. Shoot a couple of hunderd rounds through it, carry it around, you might be impressed how easy it is to carry and shoot offhand. There is a reason they were so popular for a hundred years or so.

 

[kayak-man]

I'm thinking a lever action rifle in .44 magnum would be the way to go for this. You have something that looks like it belongs in the back of a good ol boy's pickup, and shouldn't offend the powers that be.

You can share ammo with a handgun, which some may find to be a positive, and .44 magnum ammo may not be cheap, but you can probably find some just about anywhere. You may not be able to a specific load, but, I'm pretty sure a .44 magnum out of a rifle, regardless of shooting hollow point, lead round nose, or wadcutters, is going to pack some kind of punch....

Just my handful of pesos

 

[benEzra]

Well going with the assumption that any likely ban would be the same as last time, and not more stringent like Feinstein was going to propose, I think the SKS or Mini-14 could potentially not be banned.

Feinstein's later bills (never passed) did specifically ban the mini-14. I can't remember the Senate bill number, but the House companion bill was H.R.1022.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr1022/text

 

[yzguy87]

As stated before, their is nothing they won't stop at. Be assured, if given the opportunity, they would confiscate every gun you own ASAP if they could.

 

[Sun Tzu warrior]

Let none of us fool ourselves....... They want (need) to take all of them!
Let us not forget the statue in front of the UN in NYC.

 

[DammitBoy]

My Ruger gunsite scout or my Rossi lever action in 454 casull - less scary looking, just as effective.

 

[txblackout]

Lighter colors are less scary. So a white or beige gun, in wood. Possibly safety orange. Burled wood is also less scary.

barrel should be silver or possibly orange.

pistol grips and tactical accessories are scary, so no grips.

Angular stocks are modern, so the stock should be curvy.

EOtech scopes are out, but giant scopes arent that scary. Scopes cant be black.

It should look like a bolt gun or a shotgun, but be a semi auto with ar-15 internals.

It should be marketed to the handicapped or minorities, because only a racist or heartless bastard would deny handicapped/minorities anything.

 

[PJSprog]

I don't like the premise of this question either, and for all of the reasons already delineated above.

That said, a lever-action carbine in .38/.357 as a companion to my 686 revolver would be my 2nd choice.
For first choice, I'll stick with the AK.

 

[AK103K]

As much as I like the levers, I think an old military bolt gun would be the best choice. They carry one less round in the mag (rifle calibers), but they are stripper fed, and quick to reload.

My choice there would be an FR-8 first, followed by an '03, or K98. SMLE's are cool too, but Id only want one in the original .303 (I had a lot of grief with a couple in .308). Their strippers arent as prevalent, either.

Bolts can be fast, but most require breaking the cheek weld to cycle the action.

I find the levers tend to break my cheek weld a lot more than my bolt guns. Thats one of the downsides to them, that lever trying to pull the gun down out of your shoulder as you work the action. Another downside is reload time. They are just to "fumbly" in that respect.

I dont normally loose my cheek weld when I cycle the bolts on my bolt guns. They want to push the stock back tight into your shoulder as you work them. I also dont find a bolt to be slow to work, if you work them properly. Strippers make for quick reloads with a little practice. It seems loading a bolt gun with a stripper is becoming a lost art anymore too.

I find ease and speed of the levers vary, and depend on caliber and make. My pistol caliber Winchester Trappers are probably the quickest, my Marlin 1895G "Guide Gun" the slowest. The Marlins over all are not near as smooth as the Winchesters.

 

[strambo]

M1 Carbine with a small red dot sight, small light, and soft point ammo would be legal in almost all areas and so set up, wouldn't give up anything to a decked out AR-15 for the first 15 rds.

 

[holdencm9]

Feinstein's later bills (never passed) did specifically ban the mini-14. I can't remember the Senate bill number, but the House companion bill was H.R.1022.

I know, that is why I said

Going with the assumption that any likely ban would be the same as last time, and not more stringent like Feinstein was going to propose, I think the SKS or Mini-14 could potentially not be banned.

 

[Derek Zeanah]

Late to the party. I like the idea of a Win94 with a scout mount.

 

[HammsBeer]

Marlin 336 in 30-30, or the K31 straight pull bolt rifle, both very fast shooting guns.

If they could design a detachable mag fed lever action in an intermediate rifle caliber but have the mag hidden in the action, that would be a fast shooting fast reloading effective rifle without the "scary" features.

 

[denton]

John Wayne usually carried a lever action, and he was almost always the good guy.

Most of the low information voters learned all they know about guns by watching TV and going to the movies. So they think good guys carry lever actions.