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I guess after you spend $1000 to get it to shoot, they aren't so bad?
The WORST gun in your personal collection?
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I guess after you spend $1000 to get it to shoot, they aren't so bad?
What an interesting series of posts...
When I started buying guns one of the things I was trying to do was buy something in the 'popular' calibers. I got a Walther P99 in .40 that was just not as pleasant to shoot as I wanted. I probably would have loved it in 9mm. Now I have DE Micro Eagle in .380 that is much snappier than the Walther was!
I had a FN 9 that I liked pretty well, but a woman friend I taught to shoot was amazing with it, so I gave it to her.
Recently I bought a used, beautifully blued Astra Constable II in .380. The day I was able to collect it from the GS I went to an indoor range to try it out. It had some sharp edges, and I wasn't getting results like I get with my PPK/S, but the biggest problem was that the lips on the magazine were so sharp I thought I was going to draw blood just loading it. All of a sudden, the magazine release button popped off onto the floor along with a short bar. Luckily I was able to spot them among the brass on the floor. This didn't fill me with confidence! The GS took it back and let me use the money towards a post-war P 38 I was also making payments on. That was very civilized of them... Like the P38 a lot.
When I started buying guns one of the things I was trying to do was buy something in the 'popular' calibers. I got a Walther P99 in .40 that was just not as pleasant to shoot as I wanted. I probably would have loved it in 9mm. Now I have DE Micro Eagle in .380 that is much snappier than the Walther was!
I had a FN 9 that I liked pretty well, but a woman friend I taught to shoot was amazing with it, so I gave it to her.
Recently I bought a used, beautifully blued Astra Constable II in .380. The day I was able to collect it from the GS I went to an indoor range to try it out. It had some sharp edges, and I wasn't getting results like I get with my PPK/S, but the biggest problem was that the lips on the magazine were so sharp I thought I was going to draw blood just loading it. All of a sudden, the magazine release button popped off onto the floor along with a short bar. Luckily I was able to spot them among the brass on the floor. This didn't fill me with confidence! The GS took it back and let me use the money towards a post-war P 38 I was also making payments on. That was very civilized of them... Like the P38 a lot.
Mine is definitely an H&R single shot 20 gauge. I bought it when I moved to Alaska and got there about 6 weeks ahead of my guns. I didn't have a lot of money but wanted to immediately get to the woods. I bought that 20 gauge at Wal Mart of $89. A box of buck shot and I was set. Or at least I thought I was.
Fortunately I never ran into a pissed off grizzly. After a few month I made some Alaskan friends who turned me on to bear spray.
Fortunately I never ran into a pissed off grizzly. After a few month I made some Alaskan friends who turned me on to bear spray.
B!ngoFuelUSN
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That's by far not the worst gun in your collection. It's just the worst shooter in your collection.
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B!ngoFuelUSN
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This is such a poignant and well written post, it really deserves its own thread. Thank you gdcpony.Mine is a basic 10/22. It isn't a bad gun and my middle daughter has taken possession of it for herself. She says it reminds her to be safe which chokes me up a bit.However she out shoots Marines with it and loves it.
MacKenzie just won against those Marines and now they have brass clean up!
As far as why I hate it so much yet can't get rid of it, well... I open classes I give on suicide prevention for the Corps like this:
I once knew a Marine who fell asleep during one of these briefs. He was a cocky Sgt and when the Chaplain asked why he felt he could simply fall asleep he replied, "If someone wants to off themselves, I think you should just give them the gun and let them do it. It would save time and trouble"
A year later he was out of the Corps and looking to set up his civilian life. He was staying at his parents in the meantime while he looked for work and an apartment. One day a fight broke out among the family with everyone yelling and this Marine was walking out the door as his mom looked at him and asked him to stay as "George, you're the only one I feel I can talk to right now,"
His reply was cold and angry, "Frankly, right now I don't care. Find someone else."
Hours later he received a call that his mother was being life flighted to a hospital with a gunshot to the stomach. He raced to the hospital to spend the next four hours watching her bleed to death after shooting herself with a gun he had given her years earlier.
Before you think of not giving a sh!+ in my brief keep in mind that this is not some story about someone you don't know. My first name is George, and I still have that little .22.
Then I proceed with the brief. It works as both therapy for me. It also keeps the Marines attentive when I get to the fact that 5 minutes of my time could have saved my mother's life all those years ago. She would have seen my son, and knew I married the woman she always said I would.
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I don't have any worst gun......
The gun that I have with the worst trigger is as close as I get to the idea.
That gun is a 20 gauge Howdah. When I first got it, I needed two hands and two fingers on the trigger in order to fire either barrel. Had to have been 30-40lbs pull.
After doing a fair amount of work on the triggers, I have them down under 20
The gun that I have with the worst trigger is as close as I get to the idea.
That gun is a 20 gauge Howdah. When I first got it, I needed two hands and two fingers on the trigger in order to fire either barrel. Had to have been 30-40lbs pull.
After doing a fair amount of work on the triggers, I have them down under 20
Since we no longer own the Walther PPK/s 380 ACP my wife bought I really can't claim it maybe. But after it doubled and a few shots later broke the extractor it was pretty awful gun to us. S&W repaired under warranty and we traded it for an LC9.
That would leave my '60s vintage Llama "Especial" in 45 ACP as my worst gun that cost $70 new. Silly ventilated rib, cheap trashy wood grips, tool marks galore, uneven bluing and a safety only King Kong can work. Its only redeeming quality is its Energizer Bunny attribute: it just shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots ......
But if it ever breaks, parts will be a problem like magazines are now. I have only two, they're different from each other and the slide locks back on last shot maybe half the time.
That would leave my '60s vintage Llama "Especial" in 45 ACP as my worst gun that cost $70 new. Silly ventilated rib, cheap trashy wood grips, tool marks galore, uneven bluing and a safety only King Kong can work. Its only redeeming quality is its Energizer Bunny attribute: it just shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots ......
But if it ever breaks, parts will be a problem like magazines are now. I have only two, they're different from each other and the slide locks back on last shot maybe half the time.
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The worst gun I have started out as a 1915 vintage S&W .455 HE Mk II.
Somewhere along the line, the cylinder has been replaced with a post war 45ACP/AR version that was then bored out to shoot .45 Colts.
The barrel was bulged and I had it replaced with chopped generic replacement barrel for a Argentine Model 1937.
So now, it shoots .452 cal bullets like 45ACPs and modern 45 Colts.
Somewhere along the line, the cylinder has been replaced with a post war 45ACP/AR version that was then bored out to shoot .45 Colts.
The barrel was bulged and I had it replaced with chopped generic replacement barrel for a Argentine Model 1937.
So now, it shoots .452 cal bullets like 45ACPs and modern 45 Colts.
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Bigdog57
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Toss up between my Finn M-39 Mosin-Nagant rifle and the J.C. Higgins 20 gauge bolt action shotgun with the inop safety and hair trigger! The Higgins is more accurate but unsafe.
The Finn is a gorgeous rifle externally but has a rotted and pitted bore - one of my first milsurp buys, and a lesson in checking the bore BEFORE buying!
The Finn is a gorgeous rifle externally but has a rotted and pitted bore - one of my first milsurp buys, and a lesson in checking the bore BEFORE buying!
Hondo 60
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The worst huh?
I have a 9mm derringer - things shoots like a foot high at 10 yds.
I also have a 32 H&R Mag barrel for that derringer - it shoots high too, but not quite as bad.
A Hertitage Roughrider - .22 lr shoots low left - but not a horrible grouping.
22 mag is better.
I had an SW9VE (a S&W 9mm) I couldn't hit the side of the barn with it (from the inside)
Sold it after about 6 months.
I have a 9mm derringer - things shoots like a foot high at 10 yds.
I also have a 32 H&R Mag barrel for that derringer - it shoots high too, but not quite as bad.
A Hertitage Roughrider - .22 lr shoots low left - but not a horrible grouping.
22 mag is better.
I had an SW9VE (a S&W 9mm) I couldn't hit the side of the barn with it (from the inside)
Sold it after about 6 months.
single stack
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My worst was a FTFeed with a beautiful 20ga. Rem. 1100 Skeet B. I don't yet have a solution. The shell will still hang up on the right side of the barrel next to the ejection port and not go into the chamber probably 2/100 times.
The next is a Rem. 870 .410 failure to eject. I replaced the ejecter hook and have polished and repolished the chamber. It has gotten a lot better (1/100) but the problem hasn't been resolved.
The third was a Taurus PT145. That FTFeed problem has been solved with a new magazine.
The next is a Rem. 870 .410 failure to eject. I replaced the ejecter hook and have polished and repolished the chamber. It has gotten a lot better (1/100) but the problem hasn't been resolved.
The third was a Taurus PT145. That FTFeed problem has been solved with a new magazine.
Candyman87
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Walther/Manurhin PP in .32 ACP... 1970's manufacture and former Vienna (Austria) Justice Department service pistol. The magazines hold 8 but will fail to feed with a full magazine.
I have to load only 7 into the magazine to get it to work. That and $0.60 a round makes it the gun I shoot the least, but still the most problematic besides my P22, but that's the nature of the beast.
I have to load only 7 into the magazine to get it to work. That and $0.60 a round makes it the gun I shoot the least, but still the most problematic besides my P22, but that's the nature of the beast.
You got very unlucky and/or you are doing something wrong
Choctaw
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You got very unlucky and/or you are doing something wrong. There are several different models of the Mosin Nagant. I have been shooting them for twenty years but I have never used corrosive ammo. That is on the shooter, not the gun.
You've never used corrosive 7.64x54R?
Can you link to this ammo please? What does it cost vs the corrosive ammo? I hope it's not like $0.50 per round or something crazy like that
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I had a Diamondback DB9 It operated properly about 50% of the time. Firing mechanism collpased in on itself, factory repalced it and still sucked. Sold it.
I also have a Mossberg 930 that works properly maybe 10% of the time. Seen the factory for repairs twice and is every bit as garbage as the day I first fired it.
I also have a Mossberg 930 that works properly maybe 10% of the time. Seen the factory for repairs twice and is every bit as garbage as the day I first fired it.
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Originally Posted by LT.Diver
Ruger 10-22. I have no idea how these POS's got so popular.
I agree. I have not heard much negative about them. I had the regular plastic stock edition and fired hundreds of rounds suppressed and unsuppressed no issues. I traded up for the 50th anniversary break down edition and fired about 150-200 rds thru it no issues.
Only issue I ever had with that gun was with subpar 3rd pary magazines. I think they were Butler creek banana shaped magazines. But that was all magazine. Mine has a 2lb trigger pull with shortened length of pull. It had a cheap scope but I sold that with the last one because eventually I want a better one. ANYWAY. Mine have run fine.
Ruger 10-22. I have no idea how these POS's got so popular.
I agree. I have not heard much negative about them. I had the regular plastic stock edition and fired hundreds of rounds suppressed and unsuppressed no issues. I traded up for the 50th anniversary break down edition and fired about 150-200 rds thru it no issues.
Only issue I ever had with that gun was with subpar 3rd pary magazines. I think they were Butler creek banana shaped magazines. But that was all magazine. Mine has a 2lb trigger pull with shortened length of pull. It had a cheap scope but I sold that with the last one because eventually I want a better one. ANYWAY. Mine have run fine.
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ol' scratch
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My worst is a single shot .410 made by American Arms. My dad purchased the shotgun for me on my 12th birthday. I have fired no more than 10 times and two pins in the receiver have started walking out. I still love it because my dad purchased it for me but it really is a piece.
Capybara
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My worst is a 1937 K. Kale Turkish Mauser. Not really bad gun but it will not shoot any of the 900 rounds of Yugo 8mm surplus ammo I have. I put the same ammo in my other Mausers and it shoots fine. I know it needs a new firing pin spring but I am too busy to order it and tear the bolt apart.
Not a bad rifle but I will be selling it. It shoots the Yugo M75 sniper ammo fine, the Yugo surplus has incredibly hard primers.
Not a bad rifle but I will be selling it. It shoots the Yugo M75 sniper ammo fine, the Yugo surplus has incredibly hard primers.
NorthBorder
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I wouldn't say the worst, but maybe the least loved. I have two. I recently received a Titan .25 from my father-in -law before he passed on. I took it to the range and it worked flawlessly with a few mags of ammo. both the gun and the ammo have to be 50+ years old. The other is a FIE Garcia .22. Some years ago I found it at my mother's house. Nobody has a clue as to how it got there. But it does kill gophers at 25 yards. I will hang on to them, both.
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Diamondback DB9.
The "worst guns" in my collection are ones I inherited from my grandfather, and thus am unable to get rid of for sentimental reasons, and no direct descendants to pass them on to beyond my niece, who doesn't care. Mainly shotguns. One is a single-shot 410 H&R; it was given to him when he was five, and it was used then...must be 120 years old. The stock has several big cracks in it, with one thumb-sized piece of walnut missing, and is therefore unsafe to shoot. I need to get it fixed...but it will be expensive and obvious to repair that stock rather than replace it...I would hate to just replace the stock...but why have it if I can't shoot it?
(He didn't really take care of his firearms; one of the other shotguns also has a cracked stock, and ALL the stocks are dry, scratched, etc. I'm about to redo the stock on the Remington Model 41 Targetmaster, as it has some initials [not his; don't know whose] carved into it, and it's scratched all to heck, and a lot of the finish is just gone.)
(He didn't really take care of his firearms; one of the other shotguns also has a cracked stock, and ALL the stocks are dry, scratched, etc. I'm about to redo the stock on the Remington Model 41 Targetmaster, as it has some initials [not his; don't know whose] carved into it, and it's scratched all to heck, and a lot of the finish is just gone.)
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I have a Mossberg single-shot rifle from the 60's - a pull-to-cock bolt action. That's likely the worst. It was also my grandfather's and uncle's so it's never going anywhere.
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