There's a "Registered Sex Offender" right around the corner

[The Real Hawkeye]

I just used http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/ to discover that there are four "Registered Sex Offenders" within just a few blocks of my home, and one of them is right around the corner. What should I take from this? What is a "Registered Sex Offender," anyway? Are they all rapists and/or child molesters, or are there significantly lessor offenses that could put someone into this category. Can't help my property value, that's for certain. Some help please.

 

[KriegHund]

Sometimes its as simple as accidently touching a child or reprimanding them.

 

[rick_reno]

With a minimal amount of work you should be able to find out the offense this person got his/her "sex offender" label. If you can't find it out on-line, call the local police. They're usually helpful when dealing with these miscreants.

 

[migoi]

And there could be...

the next "BTK" mass murderer living right across the street from you.

Sex offender databases accessible to the public do little more than create an illusion of safety for those with no clue about personal security and a belief it is the government's job to protect them.

migoi

 

[Biker]

I found out that one lives in the apartments right next door to me last week. I immediately started a campaign of legal harrasment and intimidation against him. He's still on parole so I call the cops on him every chance I get. I went to the I.S.P. website for registered sex offenders and printed up posters with his photo and crime on them and platered the nighborhood with them making sure that he knew who did it. I went to his land lord and found out some disturbing info - the offender belongs to the LDS church as does the landlord and some higher ups in the church arranged for the apt for him without letting any of the other tenants, many with kids, that an offender lived among them.
I told him that if he didn't evict him immediately, I'd call my Bros in BACA (Bikers Against Child Abuse) andf we'd line the street in front of his apts. with Harleys and scooter Tramps until he did.
The Cho-Mo was served the next day, but he is fighting it with the help of his
PO!
He is gonna leave, be it the easy way or the hard way. My word is on that.
Biker

 

[Rebar]

That site is not complete. I know there's one of the vile scum living a few blocks over from me, but it's not shown on the map.

 

[Beren]

Leave, and go where? Leave, or we'll block off access to property you have every legal right to access? Leave, or we'll use force to make you leave? (The hard way.)

The guy went through the legal system and received his punishment.

If you don't like your neighbor, you're free to move elsewhere, too. If you don't like his punishment, write your state congressional reps.

 

[SteveS]

Are they all rapists and/or child molesters, or are there significantly lessor offenses that could put someone into this category.

In MI, the crime is also listed. Granted, it won't say exactly what the person did, but at least you can usually tell the general nature of the crime.

 

[Third_Rail]

Urinating in public here in MA is enough to get you on that list, as is having sex in public places (cars, etc. are considered public).

 

[Marshall]

Urinating in public here in MA is enough to get you on that list, as is having sex in public places (cars, etc. are considered public).

You got to be joking?

 

[Kurush]

There are so many laws that automatically make you a "sex offender" that the law is nearly meaningless. Go ahead and research it but I would not assume he's a pedophile.

 

[Rebar]

I found out by going to the police station, they have the "mug shots", criminal records, and the address of the sex offenders on display. The guy living near me is a convicted rapist. Most of the others I saw were convicted of pretty serious things on that order.

 

[Third_Rail]

Marshall, I'm not joking.

 

[Biker]

Beren
We won't block access to the property, just park legally on the street. Perfectly legal. I'm going no where - he is. If the landlord doesn't mind 20 scoots parked (legally) in front of his place, we don't mind parking there. Hell, I'll buy the beer. Cho-Mos have an extremely high rate of recidivism and no, he hasn't paid his debt, he never will. I'm fairly sure that the 11 year old girl he abused (he was 42) would agree with me.
Biker

 

[KriegHund]

F'ed up world out there.

 

[roo_ster]

I did the same search for my neighborhood.

Most hits were of a sort that I do not worry about: older guys with willing, but barely-illegal gals. Something I think is "icky," but not something that gets me all riled up. No Christmas party invitations for THEM! I think that including them on the database distracts from those who are truly dangerous.

Some were serious enough for me to give my wife a heads-up & print out photos.

Also, there was an attempted kidnapping of a child not 100 yards from our house, across the street form the elementary school.

Beren:
I have no problem using all legal means to get a child molestor to go elsewhere. It looks as if Biker feels the same way. In no way did he say he or his buds would use violence or prevent him from coming or going. (Perhaps since his usename is "Biker" and his buds are BACA, you assumed...?)

Using tools such as social ostracism is a time-honored way of dealing with this kind of folks. IMNSHO, it should be used more often and for a greater number of offenses.

As to where they go, I'm not going ot weep for him. If he has to spend the rest of his life moving around as his infamy catches up with him...I'm still not going to weep for him. He should have thought about that before he acted. There is no Constitutional right not to be rediculed and despised for past vile behavior, even if time has been served.

 

[pax]

Sex offender databases accessible to the public do little more than create an illusion of safety for those with no clue about personal security and a belief it is the government's job to protect them.

Not true.

Classic pedophiles are very good at grooming & recruiting young victims. Part of that process is earning the trust of the adults who would normally protect the child.

Statistically, if you are concerned about protecting your children from sexual abuse, you have far more to fear from close family friends than you do from a stranger who lives three blocks away. The sex offender database really can help here -- before you extend any sort of trust to a new acquaintance who seems friendly, it's a good idea to check to see if they have a history of abusing the trust of friends.

pax

 

[Zundfolge]

So I happen to know a couple of registered sex offenders ... at a company I used to work for one of the ladies I worked with, her husband was convicted of some sort of child molestation (of course he claims he was innocent and he took a plea deal to avoid hard time ... whatever).

Anyway, he's a registered sex offender and he doesn't show up on the list at all ... not the state list and not the national one.


I used to work with another guy in another state who had an affair with a 15 year old girl and he actually shows up on the databases.



So I don't put much stock in these databases when a guy convicted of molesting a young child (8 years old ... child of his former wife) doesn't show up but some guy who had a consensual fling with a 15 year old does. I don't see the value in it.

 

[Sindawe]

Where would you have him go biker? Somebody else's neighborhood? There is a word for that state of mind. Its called NIMBY, Not In My Back Yard.

I've no love for pedophiles, nor any for people who push their problems off on somebody else.

 

[CAS700850]

Pax is right. All too many pedophiles work to get the trust of the entire family before they begin grooming the child. The trust allows them access to the child in ways most parents wouldn't think to allow "just anyone." Once the access is granted, and the apparent trust o fthe parents, the grooming begins. It's like any other tool out there, only as good as the information contained in the system, and the use you make of it.

Also, having been involved in the system for over 10 years now, I can say that I do not believe modern science/treatment programs/etc., can "fix" a pedophile. A P.O. I know that specializes in these cases sais to me once "you can't fix them. At best, you can control them." With that in mind, I'd like to know who they are, or at least as many of them as I can.

P.S. In Ohio, the offense is listed with the category of offender, and available on line for every county.

 

[Biker]

Sindawe
The SOB is not my problem, he is *everyone's*. Turn the POS into a pariah until the only place he can find to live is a little shack out in the boonies where the only young'uns he find find to molest are little porcupines. Either that or he commits sideways.
Biker

 

[CAnnoneer]

Biker,

I can see your point, and indeed many people with family would probably do what you did. But, what happens when a guy like that gets pushed one too many times? He clearly does not have all his marbles already. What if he fences an SMG and starts a F.U.A. blood bath right in the middle of your community?

There must be a better solution than releasing such into the community AND provoking them through legal harassment.

In the absence of any changes to the legal code, wouldn't it have been more prudent to just warn your neighbors and let them decide for themselves what level of care with him they are comfortable with? I'd think the biggest weapon is awareness, first and foremost.

All I am saying is there are a number of wackos that went postal over far less and it seems to me you took a really big chance for everybody involved.

 

[armoredman]

Urinating in public here in MA is enough to get you on that list, as is having sex in public places (cars, etc. are considered public).

Yep. Weird things can get you a sex score. Also, a sex score can hold over from youth, so an inmate on an SO yard can have committed armed robbery, ag assault, and be there for groping his girlfriend in public 20 years ago. There are to kinds of sex criminal - sex offenders, which can be offenses so petty to be unbelievable, or not, and the sexual predators, who should be terminated. Generlly they will reoffend, especially the predators, and castration will NOT help, as the behavior is hard wired in thier little rat brains....

 

[Sindawe]

+1 CAnnoneer. Maybe a solution would be to move them into adult only communities when they are no children around. Oh, wait...we can't do that, since it is no longer legal to bar people with kids from moving into a community/development. :banghead:

So tell me Biker, is there a point in time where someone who had offended in the past, but not repeated that offense is allowed back into your world? Years? Decades? Or is it a case "One mistake, suffer forever."

 

[Derby FALs]

I found out that one lives in the apartments right next door to me last week. I immediately started a campaign of legal harrasment and intimidation against him. He's still on parole so I call the cops on him every chance I get. I went to the I.S.P. website for registered sex offenders and printed up posters with his photo and crime on them and platered the nighborhood with them making sure that he knew who did it. I went to his land lord and found out some disturbing info - the offender belongs to the LDS church as does the landlord and some higher ups in the church arranged for the apt for him without letting any of the other tenants, many with kids, that an offender lived among them.

By your post you show you have done several things that are illegal, already. Be careful as the wrath of the man may come down on you instead. Do you even know what his offenses where or just have a general knowledge that he has a record? There should have been a list of revised statutes that he was convicted of breaking.