This happened not far from me... .22

[intercooler]

.22 is pretty lethal just like seeing in many 48 hours cases:

Maryland State Police are awaiting word from the Cecil County State's Attorney's Office on possible charges in the Friday night shooting death of an Elkton man west of Chesapeake City.

David Everson, 41, was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after 11:30 p.m. in front of a home in the unit block of Vanderlyn Drive.

Police from the North East barrack responded to a call from that address from Everson's ex-wife, according to a press release from state police. She told police Everson, who lived in the 100-block of Elk Forest Drive, was beating on her door. Earlier in the evening, Everson allegedly sent a series of threatening texts to the ex-wife, who is now married to the man suspected in the shooting, police said. Those texts threatened he would come to the couple's home and hurt them, police said.

When he arrived at the home, the ex-wife told police he blew his vehicle horn, then approached the house and banged on the door, police said.

Entering the Chesapeake City home with a key, Everson was confronted by the husband who allegedly fired a .22 caliber rifle, striking him in the chest, police said.

When officers arrived the husband was seen standing in the doorway of the home calling to police for assistance, police said. Everson was lying at the bottom of the outside steps, police added.

No one else in the home, including four children, was injured.

Everson's body was taken to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for an autopsy.

The Maryland State Police Homicide Unit and the North East Barrack Criminal Investigation Section continues the investigation.

 

[Jeff F]

His ex wife and her new husband's first mistake was not changing or re- keying the locks.

 

[BSA1]

Doesn't say how he got a key.

 

[kenken]

He done the right thing. Protect his family at all cost.

By the way where is all the press. Where is Jesse and Al helping with the family.

kenken

 

[303tom]

Sounds to me like the only person that used to have a problem was, the ex-husband. Sounds like someone did`nt know when to walk away & leave well enough alone, take it from someone who knows, I have been a ex-husband twice, just walk away and let it go..............Chalk up another one for the good old .22LR

 

[Sam1911]

So what can we learn from this (what's the THR angle)?

.22s can still kill people, but we knew that.

Having A gun ('most ANY gun) is better than not. The will to use it if necessary is critically important.

We don't know many details (and probably won't ever) so what else can we take away from this?

 

[spotch]

I wonder how much difference the added barrel length of the rifle helped.

 

[wally]

I wonder how much difference the added barrel length of the rifle helped.

A lot, about double the energy compared to a 2.5" mouse gun barrel.

 

[blarby]

We don't know many details (and probably won't ever) so what else can we take away from this?

1. Opsec would tell you that if you have a crazy EX, re-key the locks in your house. Maybe one of those chain or metal slide interior door stops that allow about 3-4 inches at most of door opening might not be a bad idea, either. Even if he had a key, if he broke that flimsy thing off your door, thats B+E... or at least forceful illegal entry.... Not that MDSP would care.

2. if a .22 is what ya got, practice a lot for center mass, and get a good, heavy bullet.

3. Even in the clearest cases of self defense from pre-meditated attempted felony assault (from the report offered here, which I have no reason to doubt) Maryland will try and charge you for defending your life and the lives of your loved ones. I lived there for about 4 years. This is pretty standard fare for the legal system there. Selling heroin "flea-market" style on the streets of downtown anywhere between the Harbor and Johns Hopkins U ? Totally OK. ( They appear to get a complete pass from the PD there, believe me) Defending your life - STOP YOU SCUM, you are UNDER ARREST !

 

[Pilot]

The wife should have called the police once the threatening text messages started, and especially when he threatened to "come to the home and hurt them".

They should have called 911 when he arrived at the home.

That is what I take away from this incident. The new husband would have then had a "paper trail" and the police may have been able to take the guy into custody before he illegally entered the home. The shooting may have been avoided.

 

[Claude Clay]

what i take away from this in a THR way is--

following a life style change one should assess their newness.
regards their safety, possible actions by the player you thought was taken off the field.
perhaps they have plans--playing the 'what-if' game, you should also have plans.

re securing exterior locks and possibly having a good door and lock on an interior 'safe' room.
for them having the 22LR rifle was the answer. oh, and a well placed shot

 

[Carl Levitian]

Frankly, I don't believe a word of it. Some sort if internet hoax. After all, they've been saying for years on internet gun forums that a .22 is no better than a sharp stick. That if you shoot someone with a .22, that they'll take it away from you and beat you to death with it.

Now some county newspaper reporter expects me to believe a guy gets shot once in the chest and he falls down dead?

Naaa! I don't believe it.

:

 

[Old Dog Man]

Leathal 22

First dead man I ever saw was shot with a 22lr. He steped in front of his nephew that was shooting at a rabbit, he died right there. So yes they will kill a person. Al

 

[Lex Luthier]

Idiot got what he paid for. Yet again, evolution proves itself perfect.

 

[blarby]

Nope. He already bred.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Sure 22LR can kill 'em dead, but keep in mind - this particular incident was from a rifle. A 22LR from a rifle length barrel packs as much wallop as a 38spl from a snub. Some may think this sounds crazy, but my go-to get out of Dodge rifle is a Ruger 10/22 with a brick of 40gr Aguila Interceptors.

 

[intercooler]

Oh we will learn more. As the details are release I will post them. It's sad because he has children, is a Biological Engineer and did works of art out of wood. Details will come out whether the husband had cause to pull the trigger I am sure.

It didn't say multiple gun shots so I think this was a one shot stop.

 

[B!ngo]

Another sad tale. Too bad to hear of such misery but if the story bears truth, the actions taken seem quite appropriate.
But back to THR. The issue of whether or not a .22LR is capable of causing fatalities in humans and/or animals. The error is using a single data point when all of these incidences falls along some probability distribution. In general, the question is, 'what is the probability or likelihood that a .22LR (in a long gun and separately in a pistol) will be fatal, versus any other caliber/weapon combination?'.
Although I think that the capabilities of the .22LR round is generally underplayed by the gun community, I suspect that studies would show that it is LESS LIKELY to cause a fatality versus a number of other cartridges.
B

 

[intercooler]

This is going to be a tough one. From what I recall about home defense the other party would probably need to have a weapon or is in a physical confrontation where you fear for your life to justify it. I have always heard even a robber entering sometimes doesn't justify such action... tricky situation!

 

[intercooler]

Obit:

http://www.cecildaily.com/obituarie...11e1-b315-0019bb2963f4.html#user-comment-area

Seems like he had some neat stuff to do in his free time

 

[Owen Sparks]

All depends on what state you live in.

 

[twofifty]

Seems like the deceased was a smart guy, accomplished, well socialized and all. Too bad he lost his senses just long enough to walk through his ex's front door.

A good reminder that we need to do our utmost to keep calm and maintain sight of the whole emotional and legal picture, no matter how trying the circumstances.

 

[intercooler]

Much of this needs verified by the investigation but the series of events (if true) leading up to him being in this location doesn't look good!

Chesapeake City, MD) The Maryland State Police Homicide Unit is investigating a fatal shooting of a Cecil County man last night.

The deceased is identified as David Everson, 41, of the 100 block of Elk Forrest Road in Elkton. After sustaining an apparent gunshot wound, he was pronounced dead by emergency responders at the scene. Everson has been transported to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for autopsy.

Shortly after 11:30 p.m. last night, the Maryland State Police North East Barrack received a 9-1-1 call from Everson’s ex-wife. She was calling from inside the residence where the shooting took place. She told police her ex-husband, Everson, had pulled into her driveway and was beating on the door.

Troopers from the North East Barrack were dispatched to the residence, located in the unit block of Vanderlyn Drive in Chesapeake City. The ex-wife, while on the phone with police, reported Everson was trying to enter the home.

Upon police arrival, the shooter was standing in the doorway of the residence holding a .22 caliber rifle and yelling for help. The shooter is currently married to the ex-wife.

Everson was found lying at the bottom of the outside steps with an apparent gunshot wound to the chest. Emergency medical providers on scene began lifesaving efforts. Everson was pronounced dead at the scene.

The preliminary investigation reveals Everson and the caller had been previously married. On the night of the shooting, police learned Everson was sending text messages to his ex-wife, the caller, threatening to come to the home and hurt her husband.

Shortly after 11:30 p.m., Everson reportedly pulled into the driveway of the residence and started blowing his horn. He exited his car and walked to the house and banged on the door. Everson allegedly entered the home with a key. The husband was standing in the living room when he fired a .22 caliber rifle at Everson who had just entered the house. The ex-wife and four children were inside the home at the time of the incident.

The Office of the Cecil County State’s Attorney was consulted. There have been no charges placed at this time.

Troopers from the North East Barrack and crime scene technicians from the Maryland State Police Forensics Division responded to the scene. The Maryland State Police Homicide Unit and the North East Barrack Criminal Investigation Section continues the investigation

 

[mdauben]

2. if a .22 is what ya got, practice a lot for center mass, and get a good, heavy bullet.

If you are for whatever reason limited to a .22 for SD, is "center of mass" really good enough or should you be trying to target specific key areas (heart, major blood vessels, etc.?) necessary for quick stops with such a weak round?

 

[Sam1911]

Having tried for a long time to be as precise as possible in high-speed, adrenaline-charged conditions (only matches, though -- nothing near so intense as life-or-death sudden violence) I don't believe there's any value in fooling yourself that you can aim precisely at small (obscured) internal structures while shooting under those conditions.

The key will simply be (as it always is) to shoot and shoot and keep shooting, as quickly and as accurately as you're able under the circumstances, until the threat is no longer threatening. Two rounds do a whole lot more damage than one. Four, six, eight, etc. do even more. With a .22 you ought to be able to send them into the target pretty quickly without drifting off the intended point of impact.