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THR Remington 1858 Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Shoot The Moon, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Captain*kirk

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    Those are sweet!
    Really interesting Beals, as well!
     
  2. Legionnaire
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    I'm thinking about aging my new 1858, but I don't want to do a full chemical strip. I'd prefer a thin blue, like it has worn unevenly. Thinking of taking a polishing wheel to it to wear the blue off the edges, muzzle, etc. to give it a "holster wear" look. Anybody done something like this rather than the vinegar strip?
     
  3. Busyhands94

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    Birchwood Casey's blue remover works great, I used it the other day while restoring my friend's 30-30 Marlin lever gun. The barrel and receiver were both rusted and needed to be refinished, it takes a couple minutes but it will take the blue right off. After de-bluing the gun you need to hit it with fine steel wool lightly so it's in the white. Birchwood Casey gun blue gives a nice thin blue, if you re-blue a gun with that stuff you will have a nice holster-worn look.
     
  4. Montenegrin

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    Count me in!Finally got Remmy

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  5. Zombiphobia

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    yup. I carried my gun in a holster and used it a lot.
     
  6. BHP FAN

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    Nice one, Montenegrin! Now you have to lay hands on one of those ''Gasser'' revolvers!
     
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    You are not going to like me ...

    That gun screams ASP/Euroarms with a fake barrel stamping. The contours are identical to my ASP, and I don't believe that a transitional Navy or New Model Navy was ever made with a 6.5" barrel. They had 7 3/8" barrels. Only Euroarms made such a gun with a 6.5" barrel.
     
  9. Legionnaire
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    Kewl vid. My leather has a large caliber HKS speed loader pouch which will fit '58 cylinders if the plastic inserts are removed.
     
  11. Montenegrin

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    BHP FAN,

    Yes,I had one Gasser,but I sold it.In Montenegro there are bunch of Gassers so I will get me one soon for sure.By the way,do you know is there any ammo available for Gassers?I kept mine just as antique firearm,because I didn't found ammo.
     
  12. Bill Akins

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    Speaking of spare cylinder belt pouches,....the belt pouch for the Ruger 10/22 rotary 10 rd magazine will fit a Remy cylinder.


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  13. darkerx

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    I love those kind of pouches... I have 2 dual cylinder belt pouch... In which I keep my 4 spare cylinders. (caped). Don't try to break in my home... ;)
     
  14. kBob

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    Neat video. I wonder if the guy's reloads might have been faster if after dropping the empty cylinder he had held the gun in his left (non-shooting) hand and done all the getting the cylinder out and inplace with the his right (shooting) hand.

    I know I have found that doing that with a swing our cylinder DA cartridge gun cut my time for reloads AND I am less likely to drop the reload.

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  15. kBob

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    An old Cartridge of the world book by barnes I have reports that Barnes had heard that ammo might be made by shortening and reworking .45-70 brass. I am not so sure.

    Bullets ranged in weight from 282 to 313 grains (sorry, ugly American that I am I don't do metric) and bullet diameter was .445 inch. Neck diameter was .472 inch base above the rim was .490 and rim diameter was .555 inch case length wqs 1.40 inches and overall loaded cartridge max length was 1.73 inch

    The US .45-70 Government had a base diameter of .500 inches and a rim diameter of .600 inches so that seems a bit far to work down from to me. But what do I know.

    Of course you would have to fire form the cases and you may have to make your own reloading tool. Maybe if you had a round or two of loaded ammo you could cast a set of zinc dies for a few hundred rounds worth of reloading.

    I would likely just have the revolver to look at until someone else did the reloading and recommend you do the same.

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  16. Legionnaire
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    Yeah, I wondered about that, too. I haven't tried speed reloading my 1858s; the hand projects just enough to require some jiggling, and I don't have that down very well yet. I do find that holding the frame in my left hand (I'm a righty) and inserting the cylinder with my right, but from left to right relative to the frame, works best for me ... at least so far.
     
  17. craiso

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    Here is a small mod that made a world of difference when changing cylinders...

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    I did this with my conversion and BP cylinders. Look close and you will see that I made a groove along the flat that the hand catches. This groove keeps the hand from catching on the cylinder and makes you look like a pro :D :D ... Give it a try.
     
  18. kBob

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    There is a Swiss rifle cartridge I beleive it is the 9.3x53 mm Rimmed. though I may be wrong on the length/ It has a base diameter of .494 inches and a rim that is also closer. It is a shouldered bottle neck rifle cartridge, but I wonder if it might be blown out straight after being trimmed to proper length and having been sized to fit the revolver.

    Still would not just fill up a case with BP, but might take a page from these cap and ball guys and do a light load with a filler on top. I supose one might findout which chamber in the cylinder was tightest and use it to size down .451 to .454 bullets or balls thouth they would be light.

    I am not encouraging you to try these things but just thinking what a person that modifies cases for obsolete cartridges for a living might do.

    -kBob
     
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    craiso, is this what you're talking about? Looks like an easy modification; I'll have to try it on my spare cylinder.

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  20. Armored farmer

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    Some of you are aging your guns...I have been toying with the idea of trying my hand at engraving. I think my '58 would be a good candidate. Has anyone else tried it yet??
     
  21. craiso

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    Legionnaire,

    That is it. I took a small rat-tail to it and went slow. The slot or groove just has to be deep enough for the hand to clear. When I get another cylinder, I might try my luck with a Dremel :evil:.
     
  22. gilgsn

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    I'm in!

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  23. Indy4570

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    mine is on backorder, soon though, very soon. I have had several over the years but just sold the last one a month ago. Now a 5.5 is in my future.
     
  24. Busyhands94

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    My steel framed Remmy is on backorder too, the email I received said they'd get their next shipment on the 30th. I can kinda ballpark the date it should get here, but I can't wait. I have the patience of a 5 year old when it comes to getting firearms in the mail, and the same thing happens everytime. I can't sleep (or get only a couple hours of sleep) then I end up getting up before sunrise hoping to catch the mailman when he gets here. Everytime I hear an engine I get up to see if that truck is headed to my house, then the dang mailman gets here late in the day.
     
  25. Montenegrin

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    kBob,
    Thank you very much.I reloaded some .454 Casull brass with black powder.They fit nice in buddy's Gasser.We will try to shoot it tommorow
     

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