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THR Remington 1858 Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Shoot The Moon, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. ClemBert

    ClemBert Member

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    Ah ha! :uhoh: Sounds to me like you are going to have to go get your ROA back if you want to be in THR's "MOST EXCLUSIVE" club. :neener:

    I'll make it into the 1851, 1860, clubs etc but if they keep going it'll force me to buy some more BP revolvers. ;)
     
  2. Pressure_Cleaner

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    Count me in on the 1858 club!

    My first Black Powder pistol was a .44 1858 and I just got a spare cylinder on the UPS truck tonight!
    Ran right out and shot 6 shots, before my wife got home and started moaning about all the noise! :banghead:
     

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  3. Shoot The Moon

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    Not just target revos actually... I'll go a bit 'off topic' to explain - all cartridge firing guns with a barrel of less than 12" and an overall length of 24" were banned from private ownership in the UK.

    This change in law followed the tragic school shooting at Dunblane in Scotland where sixteen children and their teacher were shot dead by a licenced gun owner. All the handguns in that category were confiscated by the government and their owners paid cash compensation, which including the administration costs was estimated to have cost the country over £1bn. The stated aim was that such a tragedy could never occur again.

    For carefully vetted Firearm certificate holders, we are still allowed muzzle loaders, manually operated centerfire rifles and carbines and semiauto rifles or carbines in .22RF only. Shotguns are also allowed and are separately licenced. A few historic handguns were also spared but can only be owned by bonafide collectors and they are not allowed to be kept in the home, nor used for any form of competitive shooting. They are stored at 'Historic Arms Centres' where the owners may 'visit' them and test fire them from time to time.

    Anyway, back to the topic! D'ya like that modified Remmie??
     
  4. arcticap

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    By looking at photos, I initially thought that Uberti's Millenium finish was paint. But someone posted how it's actually factory hot chemical blue applied to a rough surface to save on the cost of polishing it.
    So if the powder residue is sticking to the surface I would think that it is due to simply being rougher and not polished, since from what was posted it's not a form of parkerizing.
    It's blue that's more like the rough unpolished blue finish on the Remington Express 870 pump shotgun which is also an economy version compared to the more highly polished Wingmaster. :)
     
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  5. Dudemeister

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    I guess I too can join this club now. This past weekend I was at Cabelas, Reno and bought this Remi:

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  6. 45-70 Ranger

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    It appears that the Remington folks are rallying to the flag! Kinda makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...kinda like that coyote I plugged with my '58 on New Years day in my back woods!

    Glad to see so many that admire this weapon design.

    Wade
     
  7. RhinoDave

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    Here's another to add to the pile. It's an early Navy Arms. Manf. is unknown.
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  8. Hellgate

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    Rhino Dave,
    I'm gonna guess and say it is an Uberti based on the thin layer of metal where the barrel screws into the frame. The Ubertis look more like the originals in that area. The original Remington did not have a lot of "beef" where the barrel screwed into the frame and had a nice, smooth transition from barrel to frame. The Piettas have a big step of metal where the barrel goes in unlike photos of originals. The Euroarms are in between in beefiness but overall are much lighter guns and easier to wield.
     
  9. BHP FAN

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    I'd say Hellgate nailed it. The early Navy Arms were mostly ASM [Armi San Marco] and then Uberti's.
     
  10. Shoot The Moon

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    Welcome to our new members - thanks for joining. As well as a great chance to show our guns off, the thread will provide a great type-specific resource for info on the '58.

    Here's the latest roll call.

    #1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
    #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
    #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony #32 45-70 Ranger #33 Tinpan 58 #34 1858 Remington #35 Smokepole14 #36 Howdy Doody #37Craiso #38 Phantom Captain #39 The Black Spot #40 Martysport #41 Captain Redbeard #42 Shanghai McCoy #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!) #44 BlackPowderSmoke #45 Pressure Cleaner #46 Dudemeister #47 RhinoDave
     
  11. straight-shooter

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    I'll join the fray !

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  12. rem1858

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    Here is my 1858

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    I have been told from the other forum that it has been modified, cylinder machined for gas ring and the barrel threaded and set back to accomodate the cylinder machining.

    Have a new 1858 coming, will be here this week.
    Had to get one to go with the 2 extra cylinders I purchased, but will not work in the above gun.

    Clarence
     

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  13. ClemBert

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    Ala ROA, that minimizes binding of the cylinder to the frame.
     
  14. mykeal

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    Ok, finally got time to take some pictures. This is the 1972 Euroarms New Army I mentioned in my first post. It's actually closer to the 1861 Remington-Beals Army Model, except for the safety notches in the cylinder; they were not added until 1863, I believe.

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  15. Shoot The Moon

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    #1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
    #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
    #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony #32 45-70 Ranger #33 Tinpan 58 #34 1858 Remington #35 Smokepole14 #36 Howdy Doody #37Craiso #38 Phantom Captain #39 The Black Spot #40 Martysport #41 Captain Redbeard #42 Shanghai McCoy #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!) #44 BlackPowderSmoke #45 Pressure Cleaner #46 Dudemeister #47 RhinoDave #48 Straight-Shooter #49 Rem1858

    Welcome to new members Straight-Shooter and the VERY appropriately named Rem1858! Are you and '1858 Remington' related? ;)

    I'm hoping to make the drive to my club this Sunday afternoon and shoot the Remmie - have made up several powder measures to try some different loads.
     
  16. Shoot The Moon

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    Mykeal, other than my polished cylinder, your gun is the 'spit of mine. I looked at the design with interest and determined the same as you - closer to the Beals, especially with the barrel and frame flush against the front of the cylinder.

    Shame we're 3,750 miles (as the crow flies!) apart - It'd be good to shoot them together and compare!
     
  17. mykeal

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    That and the trigger stop.

    We'll be over there in mid-April, in Staffordshire (Stoke), but I don't think they'll let me bring it.
     
  18. grimjaw

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    I think the Colt's are more attractive, but I like the Remington 1858 because IMLE it's less finicky in operation. However, the '58 does clean up well.

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  19. TheBigAR2003

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    heres my remmy

    let me in
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  20. Shoot The Moon

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    #1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
    #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
    #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony #32 45-70 Ranger #33 Tinpan 58 #34 1858 Remington #35 Smokepole14 #36 Howdy Doody #37Craiso #38 Phantom Captain #39 The Black Spot #40 Martysport #41 Captain Redbeard #42 Shanghai McCoy #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!) #44 BlackPowderSmoke #45 Pressure Cleaner #46 Dudemeister #47 RhinoDave #48 Straight-Shooter #49 Rem1858 #50 grimjaw #51 TheBigAR2003

    Welcome to grimjaw and TheBigAR2003 - thanks for joining and posting your photos.
     
  21. Hoof Hearted

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    I wanna play..........

    Does an Armoury Conversion get me in the door?

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    If not let me know as I have lots more Remingtons:neener:
     
  22. Hoof Hearted

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    mykeal

    I thought you might find these two "Beals" clones I built on Euroarms base pistols.

    This one is still cap and ball (built for a customer)

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    This one is mine and I have not finished it (like a Cobbler and his kids shoes) but it is converted to 44 Colt Heel base.

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  23. Hellgate

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    Hoof Hearted,
    You betcha! That looks like an original in fine shape.
     
  24. Armored farmer

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    my first attempt at posting a picture.....

    count me in!
     
  25. Hoof Hearted

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    I'm sure you're the same one from the CAS-L site...right?

    Does your "you betcha" mean I am an official card carrying member with the secret decoder ring coming in the mail? I have the radio turned on waiting for my assignment (I hope it aint Malt-O Meal)!!!

    The revolver is an "Armoury" conversion of a New Model Army and it is thought to be in the blueing that was applied at the time of conversion. The grips are nice with some slight "staple" hammering on the butt. I am pretty proud to own it! I enjoy shooting it also.............

    If you know me from over there, you know I have many conversions. They are my only vice (although the wife thinks that watching Oprah and eating Bon-Bons is my only vice) :)
     

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