Blkhrt13
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Thank you I need to learn more about the newer ones
Time for that yearly cleaning of my work gun
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Blkhrt13
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Have you seen anyone sharpen an edge on the back lead of the Canadian blade for a pikal spin?
ApacheCoTodd
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I don't hunk so but, then too, I don't think I've ever heard "pikal spin" before either.
I know Grohman has started beveling thiers. Those blades are FAAAAAT!
Todd.
LUCKYDAWG13
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Grohman are still made ?
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furburgler
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I dig your setup and it’s nice to see you using it as a work tool...Is it more for protection of two legged or four legged creatures and have you used it to fend off either.. also do you switch up the ammo you use depending on where your working
Anchorite
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It would be curious (to me at least) the difference in choice and decision criteria b/t a Glock 29 and the S&W .357 revolver for these circumstances. I’m a curious onlooker to this thread now.
Blkhrt13
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My guess is mountain kitties or bears is a concern and or snakes when it’s hot. A 9mm on a big cat will do. But a bear is a nope. Also you can split and spin shot and hollow heads or hollow points and fmj
Blkhrt13
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Pikal is a type of blade and grip style
ApacheCoTodd
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Thanks. I looked it up a bit and couldn't find anything on it.
Todd.
Thanks for that. I assumed this was a .327 Mag not knowing the 327 model designator.
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Blkhrt13
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Edge is usually toward the user. Blade protruding from the bottom of the hand. To push a cut you use the forearm, bicep wrist. To pull a cut you lock all those up and pull with the back like a rowing machine. It’s a knife fighting thing.
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Blkhrt13
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Valid. I honestly only know the 9s and 40s but likely not as much they have been at it with new guns that look the same as all the old ones.
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I love my Glocks but if I were in bluejeans’ position I would probably stick with a revolver.
Less to pack - 1 gun and a box of ammo vs 1 gun, a magazine or 3 and a box of ammo.
Less to lose - a lost magazine or magazines render the Glock a single shot and a very light brick.
A revolver won’t be moved out of battery pressing it into the chest or mouth of a large furry creature whose name sets off a flurry of activity on gun forums when mentioned.
Less to pack - 1 gun and a box of ammo vs 1 gun, a magazine or 3 and a box of ammo.
Less to lose - a lost magazine or magazines render the Glock a single shot and a very light brick.
A revolver won’t be moved out of battery pressing it into the chest or mouth of a large furry creature whose name sets off a flurry of activity on gun forums when mentioned.
Anchorite
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I love my Glocks but if I were in bluejeans’ position I would probably stick with a revolver.
Less to pack - 1 gun and a box of ammo vs 1 gun, a magazine or 3 and a box of ammo.
Less to lose - a lost magazine or magazines render the Glock a single shot and a very light brick.
A revolver won’t be moved out of battery pressing it into the chest or mouth of a large furry creature whose name sets off a flurry of activity on gun forums when mentioned.
Can’t disagree with the reasoning. I was curious as to the choice of caliber more than anything.
LUCKYDAWG13
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Yes me to
Of course I use a variety of loads depending on where I’m at. All are hand loads (except shot shells) my main loads are .38 plinking loads (lead over unique) hot 357 hollow points (158 Hornady xtp over 2400) and 180 hard cast over h110. Then some cci shot shells on hand for snakes. My 327 takes moon clips so a typical day looks like this:
^6 defensive rounds for the biggest critter I anticipate with two .38’s for squirrels or grouse or just an end of the action drillbefore I head back to camp. I always holster it on the last chamber with a 38 so that if I draw in response to a threat my first ( and the subsequent 5 ) shots with be 357. If I see a grouse or want to take a practice shot then I pull the hammer back 1/4” and rotate the cylinder back two notches. I also carry an 8-hole speed strip with 357’s for a reload since it will carry flatter in my vest pocket and I don’t have to worry about it bending which would ruin a moon clip. I still very much like the moon clip in the gun as it is much easier to unload whether for cleaning or reloading.
My concerns range from wild dogs, meth heads, pot farmers ( closer to civilization) to wolves, moose and grizzlies in more remote regions... cougars, black bears and snakes anywhere.
I believe the 357 to be the best all around cartridge for outdoor carry in the northwest. Sure, if you KNEW what you were going to encounter on a given day there might be a better option for that situation... but a 357 is acceptable for everything with the variety of loads it can handle. The 44 and the .41 are also great but they are in a different size/weight class which is a big deal to me with the ground I cover. I like the idea of a 10mm but whenever I look at load data or shoot one (I’ve tried several Glock 20 and 29’s) I am underwhelmed.... just about the same as a 357 without the versatility of loads available ... increased capacity but that’s highly unlikely to ever be an issue for me. I also believe (based on experience) that a revolver is more reliable for the situation I face and more capable of resisting the abuse and neglect my job subjects it to.
That said, I do have two other guns I sometimes use for work; a 629 5” 44 mag with Buffalo bore for parts of Alaska or around glacier
And a m&p 5” 357sig for when I’m close to city limits and only worrying about meth labs and dogs... which also would mean I’m close to my truck and can clean it every day.
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ApacheCoTodd
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Mentioning meth... Doing what you do - do you have to contend with ornery gold miners, legitimate or otherwise?
I know it was THE human concern in the woods - near water - when I was there in the 80's.
Todd.
Haven’t ever had a problem with miners.. though I have gotten to explore quite a few abandoned mine shafts
Some of the worst human altercations I’ve had are with irate neighboring landowners who don’t know where their own property line is, hunters jealous of their favorite spot ( had state troopers called on me several times by hunters) and a couple drug operations that I tiptoed away from without incident. Many reasons I prefer to work in remote places than on the fringes of civilization
LUCKYDAWG13
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I was hunting once with my son and we walked right into pot field at harvest time he was around 13 14 years old we got the hell out of there fast
I think that's a fair assessment. 10mm and .357Mag top out about the same, however a .357Mag revolver can handle very light loads while a 10mm autopistol is likely going to start to have function issues if you load too light for it.
If capacity isn't a concern, then the only benefit of a 10mm might be a flatter package for carry.
Cleaning would be the same as for the revolver. Unload it, blast out the trigger & trigger housing area with something like Hornady One Shot and then reload and reassemble. I would worry about dust collecting inside the mag and eventually causing problems, so maybe a revolver is an easier solution from that standpoint.
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What about wolves? Pretty prolific across much of Alaska, aren’t they?Haven’t ever had a problem with miners.. though I have gotten to explore quite a few abandoned mine shafts
I have yet to see a wolf in Ak but there sure are a lot in N. Idaho and w. Montana. Some days I hear them howling all around me.. (creepy) or find wolf tracks on top of my own (following me) 10 minutes later. Actual sightings are rare. I had one run at me about 18 years ago but that was before it was kosher to shoot ‘em. And it’s a good thing I didn’t end up needing to as the 9mm I was carrying was so full of crud (I found out later) that wouldn’t have cycled the next round.
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CopperFouling
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I have nothing constructive to add, but @bluejeans has started one of the most entertaining threads I have read in quite some time.
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On second thought, I am wondering if NP3+ or something similar on the internals would basically mean you wouldn't have to deal with rust when you do get around to cleaning.
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