Time to end the confusion: READ HERE About CA SB 357 and AB 352!!!!

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Couple of interesting thoughts or observations....

On the PDF linked off the AG's site ( http://www.ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/2005/05-028.pdf ) its says "...unique sereial number for each handgun bullet within each box...." That means 50 sereal numbers per box. That drastically changes the complexity of the task. Now each box has 50 numbers attached to it. I'm not a computer guy so I dont know the bits and bytes but any way you dice it your database just got a whole lot larger.

Also, if you say "each" there's no longer the ability for the ammo manufactures to comply by creating larger units to sell. If it were 1 number per "sale" or "box" they could just put a thousand rounds in a "box" all with the same number and it would be a lot easier to coax that from the existing production methods.

Another thing that might be worth putting into the letters from the governor is the idea that seialized ammo only exists in theory. What would DOJ do if you asked them to show you an actual box of compliant ammo, with all the tamperproof packaging, and invintory codes that was created in a real production setting. I'd bet anything that that box doesnt exist. I've got money that says every searlized round that has been shot or produced to date has been placed, by hand infront of a laser that was programed by hand keyed entry, and loaded on a press with a production capacity no greater than the Dillon that's sitting in my garage. I bet the shell rack was picked up from the trash at the range and the cardboard box was created on a laser printer and glued together by somebody's secetary.
 
Since the numbers will microscopic, how will you know if they are there? How enforcement know they are there? And finally, how will they show "intent" if there is no way you verify complience and must depend on what someone tells you about serial numbers being present. Will they also stand trial for beleaving what someone else told them?
 
1. The date of implementation has been moved from 2007 to 2009 for sales, manufacture or transfer.
2 Transportation while moving to a new home is exempt.

3 Out of state residents can possess/transport up to 50 rounds while in the state but only for the firearms they possess

4 Possession of non-seriallized ammo in public places will be legal until 2016 (instead of 2007)
Well that is good. Now we can continue to buy non-serialized ammo and as long as they can't prove we bought it after the ban, it really isn't banned. Sort of like the normal capacity magazines ban. I bought all of my normal capacity magazines before the ban. :D

I just don't see how Arnold could put this through and expect to win the next election. Hopefully he is smart enough to know that.
 
I can't say I am much interested in listening to anyone who has justifications to these laws.

I have zero tolerance for gun laws of any type any more.

What I am interested in is the repeal of gun laws on the books...starting with the import ban of '89, the gun control act of '69, disband the '72 ATF, and dump the '94 Brady Act. Eventually I'd like to see the '34 and '38 gun control acts removed, and the icing on the cake would be the revocation of the 1911 Sullivan act.

That's what I call a compromise. Remove those restrictions on gun ownership and they can serialize all they want. Until then...these laws are just more nails in the coffin.
 
This is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard. All I can say is, Thank God I don't live in California. If I were in y'all's situation I think I'd start quietly purchasing all the ammo I could afford and in as many calibers I presently need and may ever need. If the gubment figures out I've got it, well then they can just come and get it- but they better pack a lunch. Not to sound like an alarmist, but I perceive that with these two laws coming down the pipe (if they pass) and with the recent supreme court decision that broadens the scope of eminent domain, we are going to see a lot more Ruby Ridge and Waco type situations in the near future. Goodbye freedom- hello police state.
 
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