Times Opinion Article Equates Gun Rights With Racism

[Speedo66]

Well, here's a new approach to gun control, and this is pretty far out even for the NY Times. If you want to keep gun ownership in the US knowing that inner city youth are killing each other with guns, then obviously you're a racist. How's that for roundabout thinking? This from a Notre Dame professor.

The early reader's comments were right on point. One mentioned that if you took away the disproportionate amount of black on black shootings, the rest of the country had stats about like that of other 1st world countries. One tongue in cheek comment, based on the writer's theory, was perhaps certain groups, if they can't control themselves with guns, shouldn't be allowed to possess them at all.

I didn't look at later comments, but the early ones were probably not what the Times was expecting. But the argument is so silly that perhaps even the typical Times reader finds it ridiculous and repulsive.

Here's the opinion article: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.co...2446C46E3616B2424FD&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion

 

[lemaymiami]

Surprise, surprise, sur.......

 

[Old Dog]

you want to keep gun ownership in the US knowing that inner city youth are killing each other with guns, then obviously you're a racist.

This completely ignores the fact that in many urban areas, persons of color have successfully, time and time again, used firearms in self-defense and defense of their families. Does the Times espouse denying the rights of those law-abiding citizens who live in these areas to defend themselves? Another new low for this disgusting media outlet.

 

[yokel]

To its opponents the NRA can do little or nothing that is right.

We all know there are many elitist cretins who mendaciously and malevolently or perhaps ignorantly portray the NRA as extremist and as an enemy of all that is decent and moderate.

Indeed, vile sentiments such as this convey what many leftist activists are secretly thinking:

There will be no effective gun control in the United States, even in the aftermath of horrific events such as Sandy Hook, the Planned Parenthood Shooting, or the San Bernardino massacre, until politicians, pundits, and analysts realize that the gun is a type of totem or fetish object for too many white men. As such, when we try to talk about gun control in America, a centuries-deep sense of white masculinity that understands the gun as its exclusive right is made to feel imperiled and upset.

 

[Walkalong]

realize that the gun is a type of totem or fetish object for too many white men.

But that isn't racist.

 

[Deanimator]

The argument itself is racist for no other reason than it infantilizes and dehumanizes Blacks, painting us as being innately unable to conduct ourselves as human beings.

If I'm too inferior to own a gun, why should I be allowed to vote, travel freely or reproduce?

The history of gun control in North America is the history of violent White supremacism and the efforts its advocates to procure for themselves a "safe working environment".

 

[yokel]

But that isn't racist.

A combination of racism and feminism.

The unfortunate truth of the matter is that these domestic disarmament advocates look upon the U.S. as a patriarchal, white supremacist country.

They reckon that the right to keep and bear arms is an integral component of the systematic oppression blacks and women!

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I came across a new acronym this morning browsing Lousy Book Covers: SJW. ? I searched Urban Dictionary -- it means Social Justice Warrior. That's the kind of self-righteous idjit who would correct Chief Wilma Mankiller of the Cherokee Nation for using the phrase American Indian by mounting their high horse and telling the Chief that It's Native American you inferior-to-me racist! I am tempted to add Gary Gutting to the Urban Dictionary as an example of SJW.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/28/guns-and-racism/
Gary Gutting, "Guns and Racism", The Stone, New York Times, 28 Dec 2015?

My answer: Gun Control and Racism

Brief of Amicus Curiae submitted by Congress of Racial Equality in Support of Respondent, in the case of D.C. v Heller 2008. Lays out the history of gun control used as control of Black Americans.

Just one of many items cited: Watson v. Stone, 148 Fla. 516, 524, 4 So.2d 700, 703 (1941)
Justice Buford of the Florida Supreme Court noted in his concurring opinion narrowly construing a Florida gun control statute:

I know something of the history of this legislation. The original Act of 1893 was passed when there was a great influx of negro laborers in the State drawn here for the purpose of working in turpentine and lumber camps. The same condition existed when the Act was amended in 1901 and the Act was passed for the purpose of disarming the negro laborers .... The statute was never intended to be applied to the white population and in practice has never been so applied .... there has never been, within my knowledge, any effort to enforce the provisions of this statute as to white people because it has generally conceded to be in contravention of the Constitution and nonenforceable if contested.

Summary of Argument, folio 2, page 17 in
http://www.abanet.org/publiced/prev...-290_RespondentAmCuCongrRacialEqualitynew.pdf
accessed through American Bar Association blog [linked tested and working 28 Dec 2015]

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

The intensity gap exists because opponents of gun violence have no corresponding deep motivation

Wow. I think I am justified in inferring this to mean that, those who support the 2nd A do not oppose "gun violence".

There is so much wrong with this entire article. It is a waste of time, thought, and energy.

 

[Speedo66]

As one commenter notes, isn't it racist to think that only whites can solve black on black issues? He also ignores the fact that many black political and cultural leaders and entertainers possess guns and do so responsibly.

As I mentioned, even for the Times, this is just way out there.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Gun control is advocated and used by plutocratic patriarchs like billionaire Michael Bloomberg to maintain the hegemony of the 0.1 percent oppressing the working and middle classes! Gun control is classic Classism. To the barricades!!

(I seem to have come down with a mild case of SJWism. Couple of aspirin, orange juice and a nap, I'll be better.)

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@Speedo66: I looked at a few of the later comments; when I downloaded the article, I captured newest comments too. Many of the commenters offered very cogent arguments against Gutting's position and a lot of them sounded like non-gunners who nevertheless did not believe gun control would affect criminal behavior.

 

[Old Dog]

This guy, "Chauncey DeVega" whom Yokel linked to absolutely expresses why the hatred toward guns ...

The common denominator is white masculinity and the particular ways that it is connected to American gun culture and the color line

yet he doesn't even realize that his view of history is also colored by racism -- and sexism. But the irony is, as Carl N. Brown pointed out (and there's substantial documentation to this effect) that government gun control efforts actually have racist roots.

We've come full circle when the bloggers are threatened by white masculinity.

 

[MagnunJoe]

I guess I'm a racist! According to that filthy paper.

 

[yokel]

This guy, "Chauncey DeVega" whom Yokel linked to absolutely expresses why the hatred toward guns ...

Quote:
The common denominator is white masculinity and the particular ways that it is connected to American gun culture and the color line

yet he doesn't even realize that his view of history is also colored by racism -- and sexism. But the irony is, as Carl N. Brown pointed out (and there's substantial documentation to this effect) that government gun control efforts actually have racist roots.

We've come full circle when the bloggers are threatened by white masculinity.

Devega does mention the actual origin of gun control:

The infamous Black Codes and Jim and Jane Crow denied guns to black people on practical grounds—black people with guns would be able to actively resist white supremacist violence and political disenfranchisement. These laws had symbolic power as well. Because gun ownership was reserved for white people, it was deeply integral to notions of white masculinity and white male power. The gun was a tool for white men to protect “the white family” against non-whites. The gun was also a way for white men (the normative and idealized “white heterosexual Christian male) to impose their power both within their families, as well as against other white men in the public and private sphere when necessary. In America, hegemonic white masculinity has many dimensions: the gun is central to its order.

This is just another muddle-headed ideologue who doesn't see the inconsistencies and confusions inherent in their view.

 

[zb338]

The best method of gun control would be to take guns
away from killers. Every killer that is caught should be
executed. Maybe we would run out of killers.

Z

 

[Armybrat]

Then apparently the NYT blog must think former Mayor Bloomberg is a racist for suggesting young minorities all be disarmed:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/sughed-michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minori/

 

[200Apples]

In America, hegemonic white masculinity has many dimensions: the gun is central to its order.

That's a very racist and extremely ignorant comment to make. Come to California and hang out for just 30 mins at any gun store counter and observe the multi-ethic, multi-racial mix of it's clientele.

When those close-minded, narcissistic academic types utter these insipid remarks, I like to counter with the equally-obtuse, "Fear of weapons denotes a lack of emotional and sexual maturity".

 

[old lady new shooter]

This guy, "Chauncey DeVega" whom Yokel linked to absolutely expresses why the hatred toward guns ...
yet he doesn't even realize that his view of history is also colored by racism -- and sexism. But the irony is, as Carl N. Brown pointed out (and there's substantial documentation to this effect) that government gun control efforts actually have racist roots.

We've come full circle when the bloggers are threatened by white masculinity.

Breitbart reported that Salon just ran an article entitled White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it.

I am not making this up, you can see the article at http://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/whi...y_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/

BTW the author is a white male.

 

[old lady new shooter]

Come to California and hang out for just 30 mins at any gun store counter and observe the multi-ethic, multi-racial mix of it's clientele.

Yep. At my range the majority of both patrons and staff are Hispanic.

 

[OilyPablo]

I should have started a timer when I read that thing. I just know I want X minutes of my life back!!

 

[Mitlov]

Apparently Ida B. Wells was racist against Black people for her 1892 suggestion of how to prevent race-based lynchings:

The lesson this teaches and which every Afro-American should ponder well, is that a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home, and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give. When the white man who is always the aggressor knows he runs as great a risk of biting the dust every time his Afro-American victim does, he will have greater respect for Afro-American life. The more the Afro-American yields and cringes and begs, the more he has to do so, the more he is insulted, outraged and lynched.

 

[OilyPablo]

We Will Shoot Back. Great book.

 

[Deaf Smith]

If you want to keep gun ownership in the US knowing that inner city youth are killing each other with guns, then obviously you're a racist.

They kill each other with things other than guns.. oh hum...

Deaf

 

[BSA1]

Mitlov,

Great post but we should add that gun control was used effectually in the South after the Civil War until the 1960's preventing persons of color from owning firearms.

 

[TruthTellers]

The NY Times runs an opinion piece that's clearly a racial attack on white people, but clearly they'd never allow an opinion piece that says something like, "The gun is some type of totem or fetish for young black men" because that "would be racist."

Gun ownership is not strictly a white culture thing because gun ownership is popular among many ethnic groups. It's clear that there is an attack on white culture in the US and Europe and we are seeing that the media by in large are fellow travelers in the vitriol. You never hear the MSM attack any racial, ethnic, or religious group that's not of white or European ancestry.