Tisas hi power clone weirdness

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didnt some of these have barrels cut out at an off angle chamber or some other just off enough barrel defect? mine has been good, but sure thought b&h springs showed theres with an out of spec barrel of some sort. I'd get to a qualified hp familiar gunsmith and have him check measurments etc and make whatever adjustments he can to maybe get it running reliably.
 
CapnMac said:
Which suggests the "close to drop in" repair would be a Browning barrel, perhaps?
Would probably need a really good lathe or milling machine rig just to properly test for concentricity.

For OP, can you clarify if the slide is stopping short of fully extracting (short stroking) or if the extractor is jumping off the rim (so you get a potential double-feed as the slide goes forward).
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New barrel would be almost as much as I gave for the gun, wife is already getting tired of me buying stuff for it! Lol I am too!
 
A couple of thoughts....
* First of all, I won't waste everybody's time asking questions the OP already answered or rambling on about unrelated gun types.

1. It is well reported that the Tisas clones had extractor problems in the first year or so of manufacture. It is also reported that Tisas was very responsive to feedback from the importer (LKCI) and made adjustments to the design. This apparently corrected the problem and the newer manufacture Regents have not had the same issues.
2. I personally have one of the newer guns and it has had no extraction issues. It has other issues (thumb safety does not prevent all sear movement), but does run reliably, has never followed, or otherwise mis-fired.
3. Bill Laughridge at Cylinder and Slide is one of the top BHP smiths and his crew knows what their doing. They are doing their own custom builds on the Regent frame, which says a lot. Award winning pistol smiths don't risk their reputation by putting out high dollar custom gun builds on a chassis that has fatal flaws.
4. A careful read of the C & S site will reveal that the extractor cut in the BR9 slide is cut narrow "If you are ordering an extractor for a Tisas BR9, please put Tisas in the "Pistol type" field when you check out. The reason being is the Tisas extractor cut in the slide is narrower than Browning, so a thinner extractor is required."
5. I recommend putting a caliper on the OEM extractor and then the BHSS one and carefully note the difference.
6. Then measure the slot in the frame that houses the extractor. This would best be done with gage blocks or feeler gages, but absent these, you should be able to get a pretty decent measurement with the ID tips of your caliper.

physics and mechanics are what they are....either...
a.) the chamber is cut too tight and there's no extractor improvement that can yank the case.
b.) the extractor hook geometry is off and there isn't enough positive engagement to yank the case, or the contact face is sloped and the force is pushing the hook off the rim.
c.) the extractor is binding in it's slot and is not rotating into position fast enough for the hook to get a good grip on the case rim.
d.) the extractor spring is weak and not able to rotate the extractor into position fast enough.

Based on the OPs fluff and buff and report that fired cases slide out easily, I suspect (a) is not the problem... but one would have to check the chamber with a gauge to know for sure.

Based on the OP having just replaced the extractor spring I think we can take (d) off the table.

I'd be very interested to see what the BHSS extractor looks like, measures in thickness, and where/how much filing was done on it.
 
Well put 18.5 pound recoil spring in, went through 6 mags with no problem then it started acting up again! You can see the extractor is grabbing case good , but coming out for some reason! I'm done trying to fix it, just shoot it some times, and when they start having gun shows again I'll sell it or trade for something else. 20200529_153132.jpg 20200529_154535.jpg
 
You want a Hi-Power? Buy a Hi-Power. There are no free lunches...especially with guns. Want something that looks like a Hi-Power then by all means buy a Hi-Power wanna-be. Save a few bucks. The pistol might actually run some of the time.
 
whatnickname said:
You want a Hi-Power? Buy a Hi-Power. There are no free lunches...especially with guns. Want something that looks like a Hi-Power then by all means buy a Hi-Power wanna-be. Save a few bucks. The pistol might actually run some of the time.
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That's what I did back in 2012, but given that FN has scuttled production, you need to pony up some serious $ to get the real deal... or hit the second hand market, which has it's own problems...
> The Israeli police imports get decent reviews, but most have AL frames and were likely shooting high test Uzi 9mm ammo.
> Given the notoriously heavy BHP triggers, many of the second hand Belgian/Portuguese pistols have been worked on by bubbah.
> Pristine or NIB Belgian/Portuguese pistols are going for > a grand.

I got the SS Tisas because (1) it's a stainless steel BHP, which is really cool. And (2) they had pretty good reviews, and (3) I wanted a project gun to develop my skills (it will be my 3rd BHP trigger job). I picked it up, brandy new, for a whopping $550. Which is less than many are paying for mil. surp.

Unfortunately, the BHP has become a niche boutique gun now that FN dropped it.
 
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