Transfer Fee Increase

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Oh, in that case,

I gave the address. They have them on file. No need to send.

I was there to use the range anyways.

It is 3 miles out of my way if I am going to NAS Corpus, and on the way if I have to go out to Kingsville.

Maybe a 1/2 hour total time invested beyond normal purchase. Since I get paid a flat rate by .gov a month (military) My free time is spent how I see fit.

Oh yeah, my time is worth $200+ per hour..

Their FFL fee is $20, $10 for Military and LE.

They said if you can get it cheaper elsewhere, we will be more than glad to do the transfer. They can beat anyone on GLOCK and are damn competitive on Springfield Armory from what I saw. So if I have a need for one of those, I will buy local.

Also, the 8.25% tax is beyond their control, but they could not get within 20%
 
thumper 723 said:

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"$25 is a couple boxes of ammo"~!:scrutiny:

I say, Sir it depends on what kind'a ammo? The high 20's might cover
one box of Remington Core-Lok in .270 or '06; but it won't cover the
the cost of a box of Hornady Custom or Winchester Silvertips.
 
Thumper723 said:
Oh, in that case,

I gave the address. They have them on file. No need to send.

I was there to use the range anyways.

It is 3 miles out of my way if I am going to NAS Corpus, and on the way if I have to go out to Kingsville.

Maybe a 1/2 hour total time invested beyond normal purchase. Since I get paid a flat rate by .gov a month (military) My free time is spent how I see fit.

Oh yeah, its worth $230 and hour..

Their FFL fee is $20, $10 for Military and LE.

They said if you can get it cheaper elsewhere, we will be more than glad to do the transfer.
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So you're saying that you invested roughly an hour of time and $30 dollars of car expenses to have a firearm transfered.

So, that's $260 + transfer fee.

Well, so you've really only lost $162 doing it that way.

But what does that matter to a guy who is making $478,000k + a year?
 
Heck no I am not PAID at that much an hour..

I make $50K a year.

It is worth the 1/2 hour of my life to save ~$120.

$30 for car expensed? What the heck car cost $30 to drive 6 miles?

Not my F250, and definitley not my Motorcycle..
 
my 2 cents

ok so i read this whole thread and here is my 2 cents worth
i live in a very small town in the midwest
i got tired of getting treated like crap at the big town gun shop and how they knew more than i did and they knew what i wanted better than i did
so......
i got my OWN FFL !!
i started my own little part time gun shop no inventory of guns but i do carry some ammo and cleaning supplies and i do take a trade every now and again
my best customers are guys who dont want to go to the big city to get stuff
i usually try and get a group order to gether so we all can save on shipping

by the way i charge $25 over actual cost as my profit per gun(gun shipping & tax)
i charge $25 for transfers too. it costs here in illinois $2 a background check
so now i am making enough money selling and transfering guns to support my gun buying
just a different angle for some of you
 
Thumper723 said:
Heck no I am not PAID at that much an hour..

I make $50K a year.

It is worth the 1/2 hour of my life to save ~$120.

$30 for car expensed? What the heck car cost $30 to drive 6 miles?

Not my F250, and definitley not my Motorcycle..
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I'm just going on the information you posted and then edited to reflect a $30.00 an hour reduction and now you're claiming to only make 50k a year. Interesting.

The $30 figure is based upon the standard cost of vehicle operation. Seeing now that you have the same vehicle I have, an F-250 I would have to adjust the original number to be $45 since it gets about 9mpg.

If you're on your motorcycle, which I can only assume is a single piston dual sport based on your screen name, you're going to see a higher depreciation but lower fuel cost which would about equal out the equation.

Now if you're on a Harley, well, that would only cover the oil you lost on the way to wherever you were going! ;)
 
AAH...I see now why the high fee... you want to stop folks from undercutting your sucky high prices by buying online for much less...you would rather have then come to your store and pay 30% more... the best thing a dealer like you can do is just stop taking any transfers at all.

Me, I like to not waste my time in driving all over town, getting frustrated at not finding what I want without getting raped by legal criminals, I would rather save that time and buy online and have it shipped in...no wannabe know-it-alls trying to sell me on something I don't want...

OR, you could try and charge a percentage of the book value of the gun that is being transferred..just think what money you would make on that first run SAA transfer..you could close early that day :rolleyes:
 
Green Furniture, I like your store. What seperates you from the others is that you carry used guns (read collector guns) and that makes all the difference to me. But I also shop at Legends and Benton Shooters. Their prices run about the same, give or take. The drive is nice too if there is nothing pressing going on. Runs out to Bass Pro are fun too. I always spend money there and rarely for firearms. Gander Mt, well, I enjoy looking. :)

You asked about the value of my time?? ZERO, just ask the IRS.

I don't get all bent out of shape on $20 on a $800 gun. But, $100 would push me somewhere else as long as I could buy it there. Stores that charge higher transfer fees are usually the ones that charge more for their firearms.
 
An outsider's opinion

I can't say how fair this price increase would be. I am not an FFL holder, so I don't know what kind of work goes into a transfer. I'm not in AL, so I won't be using this particular FFL dealer in any event.

But think about this, the dealer is raising their FFL fee as they see fit, and they are letting the public using their services know about it! This is treating their customer base better than any phone company, utilities provider, airline, cab company, grocery store, or ANY business I've encountered over my life.

If you don't like it, go elsewhere, if you like honesty and customer service, then support these people!!!
 
22-Rimfire:

Thanks for the kind words. We try to keep enough guns in stock to satisfy the appetite of just about anyone who might wander in.

We'll never charge more than what we charge currently unless the economy dictates. Hell, we wouldn't even charge $100 for an NFA transfer.
 
Att: skinnyguy My Friend-

A tip of the ole' hat too you Sir; and many thanks for the kind words~!

We have always tried too run our business with lots of integrity, gratitude,
respect, and customer appreciation; just like the founding fathers before us.
We would NEVER do anything out of spite, bitterness, jealousy, etc. to
hurt anyone, or anyone's business. Thats just not our style. We have a
rather large fan base of support, that we have built through many years
of trust, sales, and service to our loyal customers. We have been in the
same location since the very early 1900's. We aim too please, as we take
each transaction to the heart.

BTW, where else can you buy a firearm and eat a bowl of HOT homemade
chilli with the owner? Fact is, its not an everyday occurrence but it has
happened several times over the past few years. Last occurrence was on
Saturday, 17 Feburary '07~!;) :D
 
Im in the process of having an AR shipped to me and while i was looking for an FFL holder to do a transfer most of the guys offered it for $20. There was one shop that said it would be $90 or 10% of what i paid for the gun which ever is greater! :what: Thats the last time ill ever visit that shop! I realize that people have to make money but sheesh, no point in gouging customers. Honestly, its no wonder gun shops are becoming fewer and fewer.
 
GreenFurniture said:
My store's markup runs right at 6.3%.
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If you arrived at the 6.3% using the same math you used to come up with a $7.50/mile "standard cost of vehicle operation", you might want to have someone else check your figures.
 
fees....

i`m constantly amazed by dealers who try and get rich on doing a gun transfer. i charge a flat $15.00 transfer fee, no matter what you pay for your gun. 5 minutes to do paperwork that comes out to a pretty good hourly pay.
the way i see it if you start out treating your customers right it will pay off in the long run..
 
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Originally Posted by redranger1
here was one shop that said it would be $90 or 10% of what i paid for the gun which ever is greater!
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How many ARs did he have for sale in the store?
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Irrelevant, from many points of view.

1) Not the consumer's problem

2) Consumer won't have a chance to find out because the transfer fee scared/pissed him off

The ONLY party that this would have any relevance to is the dealer. The dealer in this case has NO leverage and has not demonstrated ANY value proposition. I guess relevance is purely his to enjoy as he looks at his inventory, and does not think about the consume he just drove off.

As the guy with the money in hand to purchase a gun, I DO NOT CARE if you have 1000 ARs in stock if they are not the ones I want to buy, or are not priced at what I (the consumer, with the money) think is a fair value. Those kind of fees chase me (and my consumer money) out the door, with little likelihood of returning.

Maybe you don't need my business, that's fine. The good news about a free market is that usually somebody will meet demand at a better price/value point.

Rant, rant, rant...... I guess this is why I buy mostly used guns:D
 
The only local place that charges 50$ for a transfer has some really great deals! Like...50 round boxes of cci blazer .40 for only 20$!!! 50 round boxes of 9mm magtech FMJ for only 14.95!!! 325 round boxes of .22 federal ammo for only 20$!!! Used beretta 96's for only 699$!!! Used inox 96's for only 799$!!! Geez i can't believe i don't spend all of my money there.

TL;DR prices on transfers usually reflect just how worthless the rest of a stores' prices are. Most people i know wouldn't even bother walking in a store that has a flat rate 50$ transfer per gun.
 
hemicuda

As a business owner, I also work hard for my money, and I spend a heck of a lot of it to make it.
I don't suppose you would tell your boss to keep a day of your pay because you didn't work quite as hard today as you did yesterday.
Everyting is relative, if you don't like the pay hike, use someone else who doesn't value their time, or doesn't have the overhead to support.
JMHO
 
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