bikerdoc
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dude, you know we are monitored by L E, You just made a list.
I didn't even realize he's now in Miami until I read about that statement. Where was he between L.A. and Miami?
And Austin before Houston. He doesn't seem to be able to hold down a job very well.e was Houston's Chief right before Miami
Once you put the copy of your business license up, your property isn't really "private" any more.
This is a commonly expressed fallacy that I see repeated by folks who are making the claim that their civil rights are being violated, mostly gun owners and free speechers. With a few exceptions, the owner of the private property retains control of the the property as being private property. That owner can stop the carry of guns onto the property (2nd Amendment). That owner can stop somebody from setting up a printing press, using the property for church services, or engaging in public speaking, such as a politician who might want to use the property for a backdrop to further a campaign talking point (first amendment). Trespass laws are still in effect. The exceptions tend to be issues related to sex, race, and religion (of the person), and in some cases, gender preference.
Dogs have the right to go outside with no pants and poop. Humans don't. Why is that?
Move to the Country we dont have an issue with that...
I can say that in ID, UT, WY I have never seen a sign saying no guns. I have never seen a sign at any entrance at Wally World that says NO open carry or anything similar and in ID, where I live, have often seen open carry of handguns, without any badges. Per a person who works at Wally, who know me, knows I carry a gun, they will not ask a person with an open carried gun to leave the store, nor call the police, so long as it remains in the holster. (They have never stopped anyone from entering without a face diaper either.)
Other large locations such as Fred Meyer, Smiths, City Market (Kroger owned) have any no gun signs.
Idaho has been no permit required for quite a few years, Why has been for residents and this year changing to all over 21, UT's new law takes affect in a few weeks. I doubt if any will change their policies.
I would hope, they treat Texans the same way.
legislative and court actions, IMHO, should disallow bans on concealed carry for the most part. OC can be debated.
Customers can be a guest but the business has to provide certain services such as disability accommodations, toilets, cleanliness as in restaurants, etc. Fire exits may be required for safety.
However, the definition of what rights the business owner maintains is not a law of physics but determined by the actions and decision of society. The exceptions mentioned above were determined to violate human rights and be detrimental to society. I would argue that the right to ban carry unless there is a technical issue is detrimental to societal as the exceptions mentioned above. The appropriate discussion and legislative and court actions, IMHO, should disallow bans on concealed carry for the most part. OC can be debated.
Customers can be a guest but the business has to provide certain services such as disability accommodations, toilets, cleanliness as in restaurants, etc. Fire exits may be required for safety.
The right to self-defense should trump property once you open yourself to the public. That is not a mathematical proof but should be debated. For example, in TX - the legislature demanded state schools allow carry and gun being allowed in parking lots in some circumstances. They allowed private schools to ban, although some versions of the bill did not.
A debate and legislative process should resolve this. No right is absolute as we have discussed many times. Dogs have the right to go outside with no pants and poop. Humans don't. Why is that?
It's just property rights.
We need to start calling him Gov. Heinz...ANTICIPATION!Do we need to send Governor Abbott a working pen?
How much time does the governor have to act on a bill?
The deadline for the governor to act on a bill is contingent upon the point in time in which the bill is presented to the governor.
If a bill is sent to the governor during the legislative session, the governor has 10 days (excluding Sundays) to sign the bill or return the bill to the Legislature with objection. If after 10 days the bill is not returned to the Legislature by the governor with objections or he has not yet signed it, the bill becomes law as if the governor had signed it.
If the Legislature has adjourned sine die, or if the bill is presented to the governor less than 10 days (excluding Sundays) prior to final adjournment, the governor has 20 days (including Sundays) after the final day of the session to sign or veto the bill. If neither action is taken, the bill becomes law without the governor's signature (Texas Const. art. IV, § 14).
Sunday, June 20, is the 20th day following the final adjournment of the 87th Regular Session. It is the last day the governor can sign or veto bills passed during the 87th Regular Session. The LRL's vetoes database will be updated for the 87th Regular Session as we receive those documents.