Martini13
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I'm shocked that this thread has reached 50 posts without a mention of Walther P99s. Suggest you look at them.
Common Sense...The Rarest Of All Senses
Ugly Glock alternatives?
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I'm shocked that this thread has reached 50 posts without a mention of Walther P99s. Suggest you look at them.Common Sense...The Rarest Of All Senses
Kevin108
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I bought a Glock by chance. I couldn't shoot a Beretta well (As a gun noob. I went to the range one day and made my purchase the next.) and I couldn't afford a Kimber. At that time the acquisition of a gun at that time was pertinent and all I knew was what I'd shot. My 17 and 26 have been flawless. I think Glocks are beautiful for the characteristics if nothing else.
My 1911 is a play toy. I put it together, I take it apart, I read up on, I modify it... My Glocks I trust with my life.
My 1911 is a play toy. I put it together, I take it apart, I read up on, I modify it... My Glocks I trust with my life.
There is nothing I know of, short of a custom Glock, which has the same fit, feel, and function of a Glock. Something which might work for you would be a Springfield XD or a double-stack 1911 - like the Spartan.
I can sympathize with you. I admire the mechanical and supposed functional quality of Glocks (I can't stand the way they feel in my hand, personally), but they are indeed ugly as sin. Their different angles contrast with each other, and the blockish overall shape is an eye sore. Yes, it appears to certain people (those who like "modern/cubism" design and non-organic forms), but to me it just looks like something made on the cheap with shortcuts made in appearance exclusively to save cost in manufacturing by not having to make as many cuts in the metal.
Seriously: would it have been too hard for Glock to have beveled the slide a bit more, or put a little more effort into making the contours less jarring?
Personally, I don't think this:
...would offer too much, if anything, in terms of function over this:
(Sorry for the crude photoshopping - I'm not a graphics person.)
Personally, I'm suprised Glock hasn't come out with different Glock designs - or, at least, materials. For instance, aluminum framed Glocks with different patterns on the grip (some company makes glock metal frames, in case you're interested: i imagine changing the grip pattern, etc. on those would look a bit less stupid than it does on the plastic framed ones), or even metal framed glocks with removeable wooden side panels. I suppose the Glock design doesn't allow for much modification in that department due to it's narrowly-defined dimensions, though...
There are, though it matters less because they aren't as dependent on eye-hand coordination as a firearm is, and they're not carried daily but used relatively infrequently like a pistol is. And, generally, even hammers are fairly attractive: stainless steel, female-like contours, rounded edges... kinda like the beavertail on a 1911, actually.
I can sympathize with you. I admire the mechanical and supposed functional quality of Glocks (I can't stand the way they feel in my hand, personally), but they are indeed ugly as sin. Their different angles contrast with each other, and the blockish overall shape is an eye sore. Yes, it appears to certain people (those who like "modern/cubism" design and non-organic forms), but to me it just looks like something made on the cheap with shortcuts made in appearance exclusively to save cost in manufacturing by not having to make as many cuts in the metal.
Seriously: would it have been too hard for Glock to have beveled the slide a bit more, or put a little more effort into making the contours less jarring?
Personally, I don't think this:
...would offer too much, if anything, in terms of function over this:
(Sorry for the crude photoshopping - I'm not a graphics person.)
Personally, I'm suprised Glock hasn't come out with different Glock designs - or, at least, materials. For instance, aluminum framed Glocks with different patterns on the grip (some company makes glock metal frames, in case you're interested: i imagine changing the grip pattern, etc. on those would look a bit less stupid than it does on the plastic framed ones), or even metal framed glocks with removeable wooden side panels. I suppose the Glock design doesn't allow for much modification in that department due to it's narrowly-defined dimensions, though...
There are, though it matters less because they aren't as dependent on eye-hand coordination as a firearm is, and they're not carried daily but used relatively infrequently like a pistol is. And, generally, even hammers are fairly attractive: stainless steel, female-like contours, rounded edges... kinda like the beavertail on a 1911, actually.
Gator
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Actually I find all semi-autos kind of ugly to some degree, now a fine revolver on the other hand........
Beautiful!
Beautiful!
KINGMAX
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two main carries
I have two main carries, GLOCK 21 in 45 acp, and a S&W 686-1 IN 357. I purchased the GLOCK on performance and reliability, looks played no part in the choice.
The GLOCK 21 has never let me down. The performance, as expected. I would estimate a total of 1200-1500 rounds have been fired through it. I cannot remember the first jam. I used the oldest, worst looking stuff for the first try out. No problems.
Buy a GLOCK - you won't be disappointed.
I have two main carries, GLOCK 21 in 45 acp, and a S&W 686-1 IN 357. I purchased the GLOCK on performance and reliability, looks played no part in the choice.
The GLOCK 21 has never let me down. The performance, as expected. I would estimate a total of 1200-1500 rounds have been fired through it. I cannot remember the first jam. I used the oldest, worst looking stuff for the first try out. No problems.
Buy a GLOCK - you won't be disappointed.
Hey Sklar, welcome to THR!
Okay, you've expressed two wants in your first handgun purchase. 1) Good looks. 2) Home defense.
As for #2, I can't think of a gun that does that better than a Glock, especially if it feels good in your hands and you shoot it well (absolutely THE most important factor in buying a handgun, IMHO).
As stated above, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally dig Glocks, especially my OD G17. If you really want a bling gun, look at 1911's.
Or get both.
Okay, you've expressed two wants in your first handgun purchase. 1) Good looks. 2) Home defense.
As for #2, I can't think of a gun that does that better than a Glock, especially if it feels good in your hands and you shoot it well (absolutely THE most important factor in buying a handgun, IMHO).
As stated above, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally dig Glocks, especially my OD G17. If you really want a bling gun, look at 1911's.
Or get both.
TimboKhan
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I don't care if someone is interested in what a gun looks like for a couple of simple reasons. First, it would be ridiculous to assume that people don't care about looks. Silver, Ivory, Sambar Stag and Mammoth Ivory grips do nothing to enhance a guns performance, yet people will spend a ton of money on these things for the aesthetic appeal of it. Duracoat has some functionality, but people are still attracted to it mainly for the fact that they can have a gun in pretty much whatever color they want, up too and including hot pink. Looks matter, whether we want to admit it or not. Second, in today's marketplace, there are plenty of perfectly good guns available, regardless of budget. Really, if a guy chooses a Glock over a XD purely because of looks, is he losing out on anything? I say he is not. In both cases he is going to get a gun that will function and be dependable, and if one appeals to his eye more than the other, what difference does that make? Third, and finally, as has been mentioned a couple time before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to think that the Ruger P-series are pretty cool looking guns, and there are plenty of people who disagree with me. By the same token I think Sigs are fugly, and there are plenty of people that disagree with me there as well.
Lonestar49
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What a difference a little..
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Well done Caimlas, one looks like space gun, flat in the wind, the other looks like "the future" and streamlining thru space..
I agree with ya, but, they make them, not us..
But, modern, future looks, played a great part in my looking at, then researching, then buying my Beretta Px4 40cal, and I have never once regretted it or those below.
Then I got 3 different Sigs next..
And ended up with a 1911 Colt Defender..
But, maybe pure 90 degree angles are stronger in drop test from 8 stories, or getting run over.. dunno.
As my brother says: "every car seat has an arse that will fit it.." same with guns and hands.
LS
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Well done Caimlas, one looks like space gun, flat in the wind, the other looks like "the future" and streamlining thru space..
I agree with ya, but, they make them, not us..
But, modern, future looks, played a great part in my looking at, then researching, then buying my Beretta Px4 40cal, and I have never once regretted it or those below.
Then I got 3 different Sigs next..
And ended up with a 1911 Colt Defender..
But, maybe pure 90 degree angles are stronger in drop test from 8 stories, or getting run over.. dunno.
As my brother says: "every car seat has an arse that will fit it.." same with guns and hands.
LS
Sklar
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Geez, I didn't think the question would spawn so many responses... Tons of info to look up. As well, I had no Idea you could get a new paint job for a gun. That's nuts!
I don't think you're weird, you're probably a closet engineer.
I don't own any glocks, long ago when I was at that juncture I opted for the Sigs, they simply fit me personally, not an endorsement.
But no one has ever accused Sig of making a terribly sexy gun either. Perfection of function has it's own kind of beauty.
First Shirt
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My son bought a Glock 21 when he came back from his first trip to the sandbox. He also bought a case of reloaded .45 ACP and suggested we head to the range. We went through that entire 1,000 round case in one afternoon. During that time, he had two failure to fire malfs. In both cases, the primer showed a dent, but did not ignite. I stopped him before he could throw them away, and stuck them in my pocket. When we were done shooting, and had finished policing up the brass and targets, I remembered the two rounds in my pocket, and thought, "Why not?" Loaded them both into my Kimber Custom II and proceeded to send both bullets downrange. They not only fired, they ejected just like the book says.
That was the last time he threatened to drag me kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. Now he has a Kimber of his very own. Just cause it's old, doesn't mean it's bad, and just cause it's new doesn't mean it's good.
JMO, YMMV, Good luck with whatever you choose!.
Joel
That was the last time he threatened to drag me kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. Now he has a Kimber of his very own. Just cause it's old, doesn't mean it's bad, and just cause it's new doesn't mean it's good.
JMO, YMMV, Good luck with whatever you choose!.
Joel
shu
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The question was about alternatives to a Glock.
There are none. Buy the Glock.
It's a fine looking gun.
There are none. Buy the Glock.
It's a fine looking gun.
Gunfixr
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Does this one look pretty enough?
Autolycus
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Actually that does look pretty sharp. They are not that ugly of a gun. I feel that the Glock 19 is the most proportionate though and looks the best. But it is all in the eye of the beholder as others have stated.
Beetle Bailey
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Buy the Glock, and then later on you can buy another gun you find prettier. There is nothing wrong with owning more than one gun.
CZ75B
Browning HP
Beretta 92
Those three would be some good choice for top quality 9mm's that will perform bascially as well as a Glock. They are better looking than a Glock in my view, although the Glock isn't that ugly.
I'm amazed at some individuals concerning fine looking firearms. Its truly amazing that the long and storied history of many lawmen and civilians alike taking pride in the ownership of fine looking handguns is completely lost on many people. I guess its like that saying I've seen. "For those who understand no explanation is needed and for those who don't, no explanation is possible" or something like that.
Browning HP
Beretta 92
Those three would be some good choice for top quality 9mm's that will perform bascially as well as a Glock. They are better looking than a Glock in my view, although the Glock isn't that ugly.
I'm amazed at some individuals concerning fine looking firearms. Its truly amazing that the long and storied history of many lawmen and civilians alike taking pride in the ownership of fine looking handguns is completely lost on many people.
I guess its like that saying I've seen. "For those who understand no explanation is needed and for those who don't, no explanation is possible" or something like that.SIRVEYR666
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Personality? Is that what we are calling it now? I knew a bland girl that was fantastic at "personality". Girls with great "personality" feel that they need to try harder.
Lonestar49
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How enlightening..
LS
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How enlightening..
LS
tydephan
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Noxx said:
Allow me to be the first to make the accusation:
My Sig P232
No one has to own just one gun, thankfully.
My first pistol was a Glock 22. It functioned, always. That was most important to me. I, however, agreed with you regarding the aesthetics. My next pistol was a 1911.
Now I have both bases covered.
Since then, I have added a lot of guns that I either primarily purchased for aesthetics or functionality, or in some cases - both.
Personally, I think the Smith M&P is a great looking gun that exhibits the same functionality and reliability as the Glock. But that's just me. I still own Glocks. I own pretty stainless guns. And I own guns that blend the line.
Shoot your Glock. Save up, and get you another pistol that appeals to you.
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