(UK) Shotgun found near terrorist jail

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Shotgun found near terrorist jail


Three boys have found a gun hidden near a jail housing some of the UK's most dangerous terrorist inmates.

They discovered the sawn-off shotgun and cartridges in undergrowth about 300m (1,000ft) from Durham's Frankland Prison, near the remand centre.

Police said there was no evidence the weapon was linked to the prison, but investigators are keeping an open mind.

Forensic tests will now be carried out to establish whether the gun has been used in a crime, said the Durham force.

The discovery was made in woodland between Finchale Avenue and Beech Close on Thursday afternoon, when the boys were building a tree house.

The shotgun, together with ammunition and two balaclavas, was in a bloodstained holdall.

Treena Stewart, one of the youngsters' mothers, said: "They were playing in the woods, making a den. They found a bag, had a look inside and to their surprise there was a shotgun.

"They came running in to tell me and obviously I thought they were exaggerating, but when I looked inside there it was, with balaclavas and ammunition.

"We're very proud of the boys because obviously a gun is very exciting to them, but they had the sense not to touch it.

"It's the first time anything like this has ever happened and I hope it's the last time."

Armed police sealed off the scene and a detailed search was carried out by officers with police dogs, though nothing further was found.

A Prison Service spokeswoman said the investigation was a matter for police as the weapon was found outside the jail grounds.

Several hundred residents live in the village of Brasside, close to the high-security facility.

Among the prison's inmates are terrorists Hussain Osman and Dhiren Barot, both serving life sentences for Al-Qaida plots to attack UK targets, including London's transport network.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/6950798.stm
 
I'm curious about the fairly generic noun 'shotgun' in the headline, and the obvious fact it was a section 5 (prohibited) gun. Seems obvious to me someone did something naughty with this considering the bloodstained bag!
 
Forensic tests will now be carried out to establish whether the gun has been used in a crime, said the Durham force.

What kind of 'forensic test' could they possibly do to establish whether the gun was used in a crime?
 
The only thing I could think of when they said they were going to conduct forensic tests, was to actually test the ammunition (shot shells) to see if shot from the same production batch (metal content percentages) had been used in a crime recently.
 
What kind of 'forensic test' could they possibly do to establish whether the gun was used in a crime?

I'm guessing that they're going to attempt to match the DNA on the bloody bag with samples taken from all fresh homicide victims.
 
balaclavas = hood

Think of a light ski mask, or something the Mall Ninja might wear to clear out the Orange Julius for VIP's
 
I'm suprised our youth were allowed outside the house let alone into some woods near a prison. Not only that, but they had to the good sense not to shoot themselves with the gun they found! Perhaps there is hope yet...
 
What kind of 'forensic test' could they possibly do to establish whether the gun was used in a crime?

Several options:

1) Compare breech face impressions on newly-fired cartridge cases to cartridge cases in evidence.
2) Wad impressions from a cut barrel. I read about a case (can't find the link) where the tiny spurs on a hand-cut barrel made unique impressions on a plastic wad, and those were matched to the shotgun that fired them.
3) Firing pin impressions (same as (1) above if the pin is original).
4) Prints
5) DNA (shooter or victim)
6) Fibres
 
Hah. Armed guards to guard a shotgun.... I guess small arms are considered MDWs by now over there.
 
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