Hokkmike
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And your next big decision will be choice of scope. Let us know what you finally choose.
Fair, but in the context of a new LR shooter researching a limited number of topics, I have to say, on the other side of that fence, I don’t think I would prioritize any of these 6 parameters, with the exception of free floating barrels, as the highest priority a shooter should be researching:
We know some options for barrel length and twist rate can make life easier or more difficult, and we know some folks really like two stage triggers, but I’m pointing out the fallacy that these are top priority parameters to get there. Short barrels, slow twists, single or two stage, 5R vs. 4 groove vs. 6 groove vs. gain vs. polygonal, fluted and non... any of these can reach 1,000, even 1500 yards without really complicating life too much.
Cartridge, ammo quality, optic capability, support method, and skill are much, much more influential, “bigger knobs,” than any of the above parameters.
Why do you keep attacking me? I'm starting from scratch, I've said that numerous times. It's not like there is a manual that says, "Here is everything you need to know in order of importance. "I'm reading all of the websites that say LRP for beginners.
How am I supposed to know that a fluted barrel is for advanced Shooters?
Just chill man. I'm here to learn not get flamed.
Why do you keep attacking me?
I'm starting from scratch, I've said that numerous times. It's not like there is a manual that says, "Here is everything you need to know in order of importance. "I'm reading all of the websites that say LRP for beginners.
How am I supposed to know that a fluted barrel is for advanced Shooters?
That will serve you well. If you find you simply love doing this, you can always upgrade from there, the sky's the limit.Thanks for all your helpful replies everyone. I've decided on the Ruger LPR in 6.5 Creedmore.
He’s just trying to establish dominance. Be glad we’re not in person. He’d prob try to pee on you.Why do you keep attacking me? I'm starting from scratch, I've said that numerous times. It's not like there is a manual that says, "Here is everything you need to know in order of importance. "I'm reading all of the websites that say LRP for beginners.
How am I supposed to know that a fluted barrel is for advanced Shooters?
Just chill man. I'm here to learn not get flamed.
Like many threads this one suffers greatly from a mix of expectations.
some just want to hit a target at 1000 yards and don’t care if it takes 20 tries to do it. Upon success they’ll scratch it off their bucket list and go on to something else. Others want to be effective, and have a very high probability of first round hits. Still others may have expectations around terminal performance.
I’d guess at least half of us who have commented on this thread could walk into a Cabela’s with $1500 and come out with a rifle, optic, and ammo which could hit a 2moa target at 1,000yrds within an hour of ammo testing, chrono check, and zero establishment. The rest of us COULD too, and likely already own a rifle which could, just might not have had the wind reading experience to do it as readily.
He’s just trying to establish dominance.
When I’ve attacked you, you’d know it.
What I hate seeing is folks misleading themselves or being mislead down the wrong paths in LRP. Chasing the wrong rabbits won’t get you fed, so don’t waste your time chasing them.
What I’m trying to share with you is that you seem to have blinders on to what a lot of folks are trying to tell you - You’re chasing the wrong rabbits. Don’t get distracted by subjective preferences or minuscule influences. Grab a rifle and go shoot. Whether you pick a 26” or 22” 6 creed or 7-08, single stage triggers or two, stainless fluted heavy barrel or magnum sporter, it really won’t matter nearly as much as these other parameters I’ve mentioned. Getting to 1,000 yards is FAR MORE ABOUT THE SHOOTER than it is about the rifle or cartridge. Getting to 1500 yards does take more doing than 1,000, since many cartridges will fall apart between 1,000 and 1500, but 1,000 is largely attainable with almost any bottlenecked centerfire cartridge in almost any rifle.
There are several “manuals” for marksmanship which will lead you down a more fruitful path than you’ve developed for yourself via whatever websites you’re seeking. I can’t say I’ve found many websites yet as good as many of the books out there on the topic, and I will also mention, I can’t say I’ve found even any books as good as many of the instruction CLASSES out there. You can learn more in a day of instruction than you’ll learn in months of web reading.
The Cleckner book is a fantastic reference. Read it.
Fluted barrels aren’t “for advanced shooters.” They’re largely for suckers who think flutes look cool. Fluting does nothing to enhance accuracy or rifle performance. Sometimes I’m a sucker too - I like the look of fluted barrels. But I’ve never spent a dime on fluting for any purpose other than aesthetics, even thinly veiled as “weight reduction.” They look cool. But don’t waste your time learning and memorizing anything at all to do with barrel fluting at this stage - learn about something which actually influences Precision.
when I see a wrench that large on a table with guns i just dont ask....1/2 or 12 would be for tigtening....OH muzzle brake......I gotta ask what the wrench for