Unite North America

[Standing Wolf]

A united Europe might make sense to that bunch of socialist losers; a united North America is a bad idea through and through.

 

[SoCalShooter]

Nah. Let's build a wall on both sides and keep America for ourselves.

That about sums up my feelings on it. Hell no we won't go.

 

[Speer]

No way in Hell.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Wow.

What a phenomenally bad idea.

Even if the resulting entity was governed by the U.S. Constitution the financial liability would be monstrous.

The cultural re-alignment would be staggering.

The Balkanization would be insurmountable.

This only makes sense if you're the king.

 

[El Tejon]

We have enough globalists as it is.

 

[tbtrout]

There is this little thing called the Northern Union that will include US Canada and Mexico by dropping soveriegn boundaries and letting both countries have free reign to our resources by taking them away from us. This is going on behind the scenes spearheaded by the Depts of Commerce and Transportaion if I remmember correctly. Time to stock up on the 3 B's.

 

[tcgeol]

Never. I am an American and only an American. The Constitution is (supposedly) the supreme law of the land, and would not be under those circumstances. If I wanted to live in a place like that, I'd move to Europe.

 

[Zedicus]

Bout time more people woke up to this, getting called a nut for talking about it was getting really old.

The main question is what are you going to do now you have learned of this?

and another is what will we (Freedom Loving US Citizens) do if the powers that be push this?
(IE: If they Pass it and tell us if we don't like it we can go pound sand)

Very serious questions that need a lot of serious thought.

 

[loxety]

Myth: The U.S. Government, working though the SPP, has a secret plan to build a "NAFTA Super Highway."

Fact: The U.S. government is not planning a NAFTA Super Highway. The U.S. government does not have the authority to designate any highway as a NAFTA Super Highway, nor has it sought such authority, nor is it planning to seek such authority. There are private and state level interests planning highway projects which they themselves describe as "NAFTA Corridors," but these are not Federally-driven initiatives, and they are not a part of the SPP.

 

[Ponygirl]

I'm actually fine with places like California and Massachusetts being socialist and leftist. There are obviously people who want to live like that. I say let them.

Too bad the socialists and leftists don't stay there. :banghead:

 

[frez]

If the USA annex Canada, how can it be bad at all?

 

[dfaugh]

I am an American and only an American. The Constitution is (supposedly) the supreme law of the land, and would not be under those circumstances.

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Me,too...but I'm also a realist...The economies of Canada and Mexico are already firmly tied to ours.

I also would NEVER change anything about our Constitution...but our government is already shredding that, anyways.

Editedto add: We already are a (sadly) a country divided---Anyone that thinks States rights should supercede Federal (Constitutional) law cannot call themselves a defender of the Constitution.

 

[Duncan223]

pangris said: If we can get Newt gingrich to run/get the endorse ment, we're fine.

Okay, that might sound good, but you need to do a little more research. Newt is part of the guys that gave us "NAFTA", and "Illegal Immigration Reform & Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996" which was the opening of the door to the North American Union.

Too many people with short memories, or refusal to recognize bad lawmakers, are willing to accept the "neo-con" agenda. The old school conservatives (aka - paleo-cons) need to re-take the Republican party or this country will continue down the crapper. Perhaps to a point that America will be lost forever.

This is a political war, and every bad candidate needs to be exposed, and every elected official that passes legislation that does not follow the US Constitution needs to be voted out of office. I'm not just talking about the RKBA. How about the right to be safe from warrantless searches? How about having the government pass laws that prevent you from using certain words because they are considered "offensive"??

Mexico is a third world crap hole, and if the people of that country want to move into the 21st century, then they need to get off their collective asses and do something about it. Of course, they would need to start with their corrupt government, military and law enforcement agencies (under the control of the drug lords' money).

Canada is pretty decent for the most part, but their far left socialist agenda has slowly ruined the country. Wages are taken from those that produce (taxes) and used to pay for benefits of those that do not produce (medical care, food, housing, etc.).

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I Would Never Consider Uniting The U.S. With Canada And/Or Mexico.

However, if Canada and Mexico were to split their provinces into separate states, and if those now sovereign states wish to join OUR union, one at a time, sign on to and abide the Constitution, and be accepted to the Union by the processes in the Constitution, then by all means, "Git-er-done"!

No other way is acceptable. Period.

Woody

Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. Governments come and go, but your rights live on. If you wish to survive government, you must protect with jealous resolve all the powers that come with your rights - especially with the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Without the power of those arms, you will perish with that government - or at its hand. B.E. Wood

 

[Just_a_dude_with_a_gun]

Unless they mean to unite "the other two north American entities, directly"
and leave us out of it, these people are crackpots.

Let's build several highspeed underground trains, that ferry mexicans and south/central Americans Directly to Canada with no stops. Canada seems to love immigrants, and giving away free healthcare and social services. It's a match made in Utopia.

 

[Thin Black Line]

But, I personally think IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, this might not be such a bad thing. Commercially, each country has something to gain.

Both Canada and Mexico have resources to offer the US,and each other
Canada (and Mexico,toa lesser extent)are markets for US products

The way this is currently working out would be akin to me throwing a trailer
on your property and having you pay for the entire cost of the additonal well
and electrical poles to service it, the medical bills for my family, etc. Oh,
btw, the additional tax incurred from having another roof on your property
--yeah, you get to pay that, too.

Also, you won't mind if I go to your place of work and offer my services for
less than half yours? I'll make sure to tell your boss that I'll work without
health insurance (paid by you anyway so I could care less) and he doesn't
have to worry about a retirement plan (like there will be one in the future
for either of us....hahaha). I'll bet your boss will use the extra money he
saves on me to re-invest it elsewhere in the company. (On a related topic,
ask your boss how his trip to China went last month).

It's a "free" market and I'm just a good person trying to take care of my family,
too. Nothing wrong with that, right? I'm not doing anything wrong if your political
and business leaders are both encouraging my actions. After all, it must be a
part of the larger plan --their larger plan. And they are the people with the real
knowledge.

There's an old saying that goes: "Good fences make good neighbors." Works
well for individuals and countries. My point is it is NOT being done right.

 

[RNB65]

What a great idea! Let's take a bloated, fading Republic (USA) and merge it with a liberal/socialist utopia and one of the world's most hopelessly corrupt nations with a per capita GNP 1/6 that of the US. We can call it Mexiamericanada!

 

[Thin Black Line]

There was also a large country with corrupt leadership that "merged" with
it's neighbors only to fell apart within the same century --it was called the
Soviet Union.

 

[LubeckTech]

A Question for frez

Where are you from??

 

[longeyes]

The Grand Plan is to swap out the undesirables (yeah, that's us and anyone who likes the idea of Liberty). America is being re-populated, re-planted, and re-seeded by the new plantation owners. The NAU is just part of it, the absorption of illegal aliens and fragmentation of the core American culture being the other part.

Soviet Union I fell apart. Soviet Union II, thanks to the Gramscians in our midst, is being reassembled here, with the ardent help of our elites, our own home-grown nomenklatura.

 

[rtrwv]

C,eh..a,eh..n,eh..a,eh..d,eh..a,eh......

I REFUSE TO ADD EH TO MY VOCABULARY

 

[armoredman]

Fact: The U.S. government is not planning a NAFTA Super Highway. The U.S. government does not have the authority to designate any highway as a NAFTA Super Highway, nor has it sought such authority, nor is it planning to seek such authority. There are private and state level interests planning highway projects which they themselves describe as "NAFTA Corridors," but these are not Federally-driven initiatives, and they are not a part of the SPP.

Odd.

...Whereas, key to the Security and Prosperity Partnership is the development of an extensive new North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) superhighway. Congressman Ron Paul has written that "under this new 'partnership,' a massive highway is being planned to stretch from Canada into Mexico through the state of Texas"...

Thats a US Representative, and the Congress of the Great State of Arizona, saying yes, it does exist. What's your backing?

 

[LubeckTech]

It is evident that there is a NAFTA Super Highway planned so my question is if the US Government isn't planning it who is?? I have heard that this will be a huge toll road with a hefty toll and would be operated by a Spanish company so if that is true it could be said that the US Government is not building the road BUT a project of this size could not exist without their complicity. So it's like the company building the road comming to your house telling you to vacate and you reply "No, what are you going to do shoot me"? They would reply; "Of course not!! WE would NEVER do that!! - That is the job of the US Marshall standing behind us".

 

[longeyes]

No, the Feds are not involved, of course not--and this would be the first instance of "interstate commerce" in which they are not.

Follow the money, as always, and ask who owns America?

 

[george29]

Glad y'all are waking up, I posted warnings on other gun owner sites about a year ago only to be ignored by all but a few members.

Fox, Martin and Bush met last year mainly to discuss the first change, which is the new currency called the "Amero" if my memory serves me.

The deceivers will say that there is no plan for anything but a currency adaptation based on the E.U's Euro.

Maybe?

Having had time to think of this, I believe this is a plan hatched by U.S citizens who are members of the C.F.R and Americas industrial leaders. I doubt that Fox or Martin have much to gain, and am equally certain our Northern neighbors would rather remain Canadians as much as we would like to remain Americans. I also believe that Fox (yes, I know he is no longer Pres.) had nothing to gain either, which is why Mr. Bush refuses to close the border, allowing for illegals to saturate America, giving them eventual LEGAL voting rights, which they will use to vote FOR the North American Union as this will give them the legal right to work here, live here, and go visit home whenever they like. It will also give the American Industrialists abundant labor and circumvent the Unions which steadily grow weaker.

Whoa!!

Things are making sense now, eh? (get used to saying "eh" instead of "huh")