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UPIN's

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by GCMkc, Mar 27, 2013.

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  1. GCMkc

    GCMkc Member

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    Every firearms transaction I've ever done has been delayed. Once it was delayed for 45 minutes but usually I have to wait 5 business days. This is strange because I'm a non felon with a concealed carry permit.

    Decided to go the UPIN route and sent in a voluntary appeal file to the NICS division of the FBI. Mailed the paperwork on November 8th, 2012 and just received my UPIN today (the Gov'ment has a quick turnaround :rolleyes:).

    Anyway, I wanted to know who else has done this and has it worked for you? I've read that some people get their UPIN's and they still get delayed. Getting delayed has forced me into buying most of my firearms privately from local guys. All I want to do is buy a firearm and be able to walk out of the store the same day. Am I asking to much?
     
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    No, you are not. I have yet to ever experience a delayed firearms transaction. Must be my oddball name or maybe where I live. Even with no BC delays, in my state, I still have to wait 48 hours for a handgun. Has yet to force me not to buy new guns from a reputable dealer tho.
     
  3. bmnloader

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    I've been delayed on every gun I've bought with the exception of the last one, an LR308 no less. I was told there was something with my DL# vs. my SS# that was kicking it back. Cabela's didn't seem to have a problem with it. Being delayed is a PITA.
     
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    Same here. Thats why I rarely buy from a dealer anymore.
    Too much of a hassle and I usually sober up from an impulse buy before the all clear comes from the FBi :D

    If personal sales go... I'm screwed. A right delayed is a right denied.
     
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    I have a UPIN and it has solved my delay problem completely. I bought a rifle last week and it came back within minutes.
     
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    I have been delayed on almost every purchase I've made from dealers. Only 1 or 2 times have I been approved on the spot. Again, this seems strange because I have a CHL, was a FFL holder for many years with SOT stamp, and many years of military service with Top Secret clearances with letter designations for most of my service career. One dealer suggested those clearances may have been the problem, who knows? I've even provided my SSN but that didn't help either. I never have applied for a UPIN (yet).
     
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    I didnt realize delays were so common. Everyone I know who has bought a firearm or have been in a shop while I was have never been delayed. Maybe it has something to do with the state im in? I did have to wait almost an hour for a dealer to connect with them though on my recent glock purchase due to massive influx in calls.
     
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    I was getting delayed every time, the UPIN stopped that.
     
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    What's a UPIN ?
     
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    UPIN = Unique Personal Identification Number
    It is a PIN number issued by the FBI for people that constantly get delayed/denied on NICS background checks.

    I use to get denied every time because of my own brother stealing my identity. After I submitted a Voluntary Appeals File and was issued a UPIN, no more denials.
     
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    Thanks Bravo.
    Engineer ?
     
  12. GCMkc

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    Wow, surprised at the others who constantly get delayed. I really feel bad for guys who live in states where it's mandatory. I guess I have gotten used to it over the past couple of years but it really is a PITA. Hearing from you guys that have the UPIN has boosted my confidence.

    I will test it out next week when I get my new rifle (SIG-551a1) and report back here. I was like a kid in a candy store when I saw a letter in the mail from the FBI. I was literally dancing around my house. :D

    I don't know if I believe the stories that people tell me about getting delayed. Common name? please. I know a few guys with super generic John Smith type names and they never get delayed. I've also heard that they are watching you because you buy (x) amount of guns. I buy 4 or 5 guns a year.
     
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    I can only speak for myself, but my delays were caused by a wrongful arrest and criminal charges which the state of Wisconsin conveniently reported to NICS immediately, but upon dropping the charges did not report that to NICS. I had to pay for my own court copies and mail them to NICS as part of a denial appeal to prove resolution on a prohibiting factor in my record. Upon "winning" the appeal and again becoming non-prohibited, I did the VAF and got a UPIN.
     
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    I'm grateful I've never gotten a delay. I don't give my social either so everyone with my name must be an upstanding citizen. :D

    +1 a Right delayed is a Right denied.
     
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    There are many reasons for a delay or deny. The FBI will only tell the individual that got denied the exact reason (only after one appeals the denial). In my case, it was due to identity theft and the thief using my name as an alias that caused me to get denied.

    Jim, Yes I was an engineer.
     
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    Stumpers;

    If that was recently, I'd take the paperwork and receipts to small claims court & sue the state for restitution.

    I've got my carry permit & when I buy a gun in this state nothing needs to called in in front of me. Don't know if they do it later, but I'm already out the door with the gun.

    900F
     
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