Urgent: Cleaning Rod Stuck in Bore.

[meanmrmustard]

Maybe so, and maybe not.

If they deem the S&W barrel with thier proof mark on it a safety hazard now, they most certainly don't have to give it back.

rc

I'll contest that one. S&W or not, it left the factory, it's his property, not theirs. Not saying they wouldnt make it unusable in some way as to avoid ANY liability by deactivation. Bet my bottom dollar that if Mosin stresses the issue, they'll deliver.

 

[gunnysmith]

Just want to know if it was a sectional rod rather than one piece.
The reason I ask is the coupling points of the rod will expand and wedge the rod.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Gunny, that is pretty much what happened. It's a sectional rod. Well I may or may not take the old barrel back, I'm not terribly concerned. I mean come on, if I get the upper back and there's no rod in the bore, then it's a vast improvement verses now.


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[SEE IT LIKE A NATIVE]

I would be tempted to get some 3/16" brass rod ,cut a piece about 4 to 6 inches long , drive it into the barrel hard and it should break loose the brush and rod . use slightly longer sections of rod until it is free . Kevin The barrel is steel if the rod is alluminum or brass it should not damage the barrel , as long as you dont bend the barrel . Kevin

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Been trying that. But the rods keep bending or snapping.


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[Jeff H]

Dude, it is an AR. take the gun apart, find a solid brass rod and drive the damn thing out backwards if you can't push it anymore.

Don't have a brass rod? take a trip to a local model hobby shop and find their supply of K&S brass and Al. You should find one for a couple of dollars and you'll need it in the future.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

I've beat on this thing for about 6 hours now, and no dice.


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[ColtPythonElite]

As suggested, plug the barrel and fill with solvent for a few.days to eat up the brush. Then get a brass rod as suggested and cut it short enough that only a couple of inches sticks out. Drill a hole in a piece of wood or plastic cutting board and slide it over then rod for a guard. Lube with a goods penetrating oil. Frail with at least 3# hammer.

 

[jim147]

Sometimes you just have to hold your mouth just right.

jim

 

[gunnysmith]

Try putting it in a freezer for about 4-5 hours.
After its frozen have warm water ready

Carefully clamp the barrel in a vise with the chamber end lower than the muzzle.
Get a rod ready to push the stuck rod out pour hot water over the chamber end forward for about 12 inches while pushing against the stuck rod.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

I can't get any solvent in there, the whole barrel is filled with rod. Minus about an inch from muzzle. And there's a rod stuck in the chamber.


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[musicman10_1]

Good Lord - this is getting to be a little comical. It seems like a joke is buried in this thread that starts: Do you know how many gun nuts it takes to get a stuck cleaning rod out of a barrel?

Sorry for your trouble; I can't wait to find out how it turns out!

 

[CABob]

I'm with musicman...can't wait to read the end of the story. Got nothing new to offer, but it's entertaining as hell.
Sorry about that LJ.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Cut the corner out of a baggie, stick barrel thru hole and then put on a rubber band. Put solvent/oil in baggie and it's will drain down....been lubing motorcycle cables this way for years.

 

[MoMatt]

Man, sorry to hear about that.

I second the freezing / hot-water-over-the-barrel method, partly as something new to try and partly because it makes sense. Whether or not the ~100deg difference will be enough to shrink the brass enough... you'll just have to crack a beer and find out.

You don't happen to have any liquid nitrogen, do you?

 

[hang fire]

On pic you posted, it that a beater rod, or part of the cleaning rod sticking out of receiver?

If cleaning rod, clamp in a vice and get western about pulling (not twisting) and jerking straight out on the barrel, with another person helping to pull & jerk.

May have missed it, but are brush bristles wire or nylon? Sometimes on the twisted wire bristle holding type, the danm end will break off and jam the rod in beside it, so pulling is better than driving it further in. The twisted wire for holding brush bristles can be steel, and beating on it with a softer drift can still cause the harder wire to mar the bore.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

They probably won't want to give it back.

The guy that had the custom 6 shot 7 fluted cylinder got to keep the cylinder after they fitted a new one. They even said he could keep it.

 

[Steel Talon]

Send it to S&W let them try to get it out. It's free right? so be done with the stress. Be prepared to buy a new barrel and move on with life. They will more than likely send your old one back to you anyway. If not what are you going to do with a damaged barrel? Sell it?

More than likely you used the wrong sized bore brush, a brush collar, or you over wrapped a patch around the brush or chore boy.

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Lol guys, thanks. I was still pissy about this but now I'm looking at it humorously as well. Haha all these gun nuts to get a stuck rod out. Yeah, it's the beater rid sticking out if the receiver.

And to add yet another scar, here's the newest battle wound. And no, cold to hot didn't help.



It was a gusher. Pinched the web of my left hand between the hammer and flash hider.


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[Steel Talon]

Damn Dude lol.... Blood Sweat and Tears in this barrel.Hard core brother hard core

 

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Lol it's the only way to do it man! Haha. Off to Smith and Wesson come payday.


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[Certaindeaf]

Look at the bright side.

 

[Slamfire]

This reminds me of :

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die.

There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
How absurd, to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
Perhaps she'll die

Don't get to the horse stage.

I think the best thing to do is call S&W and send the thing off to them, pay for the work and shipping. If the barrel is totally kluged because everything is jammed in there, S&W can replace the barrel.

I suspect the aluminum rod is bent in the barrel and nothing is going to get it out.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I'd love to see an X-Ray of that thing. The joints must be all mushroomed and or slipwedged like crazy after a day or so of pounding.

 

[Trent]

Dude, at first, I was concerned. But now you've got two rods stuck, a smashed hand, and you've probably invented more than a few new swear words.

I'm going to bring a new thought to the fight. 20+ ton hydraulic press.

That rod WILL come out. How much rifling it takes with it... well, hell, at this point how much is already gone?

You're gonna be in for a new barrel probably anyway. Might as well press the damn thing out and run a scope through it to check for damage afterwards.