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But consider the 45 effect and accuracy. Higher capacity doesn't mean anything unless in a combat which inharently calls for the use of pistols.
But consider the 45 effect and accuracy. Higher capacity doesn't mean anything unless in a combat which inharently calls for the use of pistols.
Well the military is thinking about retiring the M9,
Obviously the old war horse still has some fight in her if force recon feels the need to run 1911's.
I think it has more to do with that than it does all the other stuff you mentioned. Sure there is a lot of ego being thrown around. It's that way among all alpha male groups of elite status.I mean, if you had the choice, wouldn't you decide to go with a nicer gun than the rest of the joes?
No doubt that a 45 is a one-shot per customer round. 9mm... not so much.
Did I say anything about training and what you should do in a self preservation scenario? It will usually only take one, yet obviously all training rules still apply.If anyone is anticipating firing only one round at any attacker, their training is seriously deficient.
You should do a little research on this. As I say, the 1911 is still the official sidearm of a few units in the military.This is an fantasy that won't die. It's not ever going to happen. I love the 1911, have several, but it's time as an official service pistol is long past.
HP and pre-fragmented ammunition is prohibited for use in war by the Hague Convention.1) stay with 9mm, allow choice of hp and per-fragmented tmj
The 5.7X28 is less powerful than the .22 Hornet and is not known to be an effective stopper.2) 5.7x28, problem with choices on suppliers, but lighter and more rounds, more speed and possible same ammo with rifle. (maybe someday a 5.7 Glock?)
Actually, it doesn't -- loaded to equivallent pressures, the .45 ACP outperforms the .45 GAP.3) 45 GAP. Problem with choice of suppliers but has obvious advantages over 45 acp in terms of size and performance in short barrels
The FBI tried the 10mm, and quickly reduced the power -- which is what led Smith and Wesson to develop the .40 S&W.4) 10mm, mainly because politically something with metric caliber could be sold to other countries easier than 40SW. Like this choice least of the ones listed. I would be at the top of the food chain as far as potential power goes.
The 5.7X28 is less powerful than the .22 Hornet and is not known to be an effective stopper.
4) 10mm, mainly because politically something with metric caliber could be sold to other countries easier than 40SW. Like this choice least of the ones listed. I would be at the top of the food chain as far as potential power goes.
5.7 was actually made for P90 for optimal performance. The pistol just came along the way. 5.7 has awesome peneteration power when fired from P90, not when fired from FiveseveN pistol. It has specific role and it does that well.
1) This is only partially true, the actual wording has been interrupted different ways. The treaty could it apply can be amended or worked around should the desire be great enough. In fact have seen several articles where the letter of the agreement is being honored, with ammo that is effectively HP ammo.HP and pre-fragmented ammunition is prohibited for use in war by the Hague Convention.
The 5.7X28 is less powerful than the .22 Hornet and is not known to be an effective stopper.
Actually, it doesn't -- loaded to equivallent pressures, the .45 ACP outperforms the .45 GAP.
The FBI tried the 10mm, and quickly reduced the power -- which is what led Smith and Wesson to develop the .40 S&W.