Using antiquated rounds for defense purposes

[jimbo555]

I carry a ruger lcr22lr sometimes. Does that make me a delusional fool?

 

[35 Whelen]

I carry a ruger lcr22lr sometimes. Does that make me a delusional fool?

Naaa...the real delusional fools are those who think that somehow the human body is completely immune to bullets fired from antiquated rounds such as the .22 LR, 25 Auto, 32 Auto, 38 S&W, etc.
I may have missed it, but I don't think anyone's pointed out that the darling of the hi-cap semi auto folks, the 9mm Luger, is 114 years old, or antiquated. However, the same advances in technology that make it a viable self defense round has also made other oldies viable self defense rounds as well.

This discussion reminds me of those over deer cartridges. The old 30-30, 270 Winchester, etc. that once reliably put meat on the table simply aren't good enough anymore because, well, they're "old", and old just doesn't cut it these days.

35W

 

[ugaarguy]

I carry a ruger lcr22lr sometimes. Does that make me a delusional fool?

If you have other modern firearms in better self defense chamberings (that are equally small in size and weight if we're factoring in deep concealment / minimal clothing) then it does mean you're choosing to take an unnecessary risk that could cost you your life. I think that is foolish.

Naaa...the real delusional fools are those who think that somehow the human body is completely immune to bullets fired from antiquated rounds such as the .22 LR, 25 Auto, 32 Auto, 38 S&W, etc.

Don't be ridiculous, no one here has said the human body id immune to those rounds. We have said that those rounds are far less likely to incapacitate another human. The latter is a fact supported by decades of research by the FBI and others who specialize in wound ballistics.

I may have missed it, but I don't think anyone's pointed out that the darling of the hi-cap semi auto folks, the 9mm Luger, is 114 years old, or antiquated. However, the same advances in technology that make it a viable self defense round has also made other oldies viable self defense rounds as well.

Incorrect. The other rounds you listed cannot benefit from the advances in bullet technology that 9mm Luger, .38 Special, and .45 ACP have benefited from because those rounds lack the case capacity and max pressure to fire heavy bullets at moderate velocities or moderate weight bullets at high velocities.

This discussion reminds me of those over deer cartridges. The old 30-30, 270 Winchester, etc. that once reliably put meat on the table simply aren't good enough anymore because, well, they're "old", and old just doesn't cut it these days.

You're argument doesn't hold water. I wouldn't hunt deer with a .25 ACP or .32 ACP, and it has nothing to do with the age of the cartridges. It's because those two cartridges won't do the job. Further, deer hunting, where you get to relax in your stand or blind and take your time to line up a perfect shot are nothing like self defense where you have to make the best shots you can under extremely high stress and in a far more volatile environment.

 

[eastbank]

use the pistol-revolver that you can shoot the best, and not every one can shoot the big bad magnums and they may even give them a lower chance of walking away from a gun fight. some older calibure 38-40,44-40 and the 45 colt will sling large heavy bullets at very good speeds in colt-smith&wesson revolvers, be they single action or double action and they worked then and will work now and they don,t need trick bullets to get the job done. i own both revolvers and auto and carry both. how i am dressed is the deciding factor in most cases. take a auto with a empty chamber and point it at your target and pull the trigger and then rack the slide chambering a round and firie hitting the target ,like you had a bad shell in the chamber and needed to fire in a split second. in the time it takes you to do that with my old revolver i will have fires 3 shots into the target. autos are at the top of their game with good ammo,being clean and not being restricted in a coat pocket. eastbank.

 

[bikerdoc]

178 posts and it has been around the mulberry bush several time. So feel free to start another thread but this one is done.