Utah Concealed Permit

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I live in Texas, I want a permit to carry. I'm not really wanting to take the Texas CHL class yet for several reasons. I am eligible, but the Utah license seems to cover Texas. I don't really venture from Texas very often.

So will the Utah permit cover me forever in Texas or is it temporary only?

-John
 
Why wouldn't you just take your own states class, are you afraid you might not pass, or do you have something to hide?
 
Taking a cc class is a good idea if you never have. Another point is that some states, while recognizing other state's licenses, do not recognize other states non-resident licenses. Other states do not recognize a second state's non-resident license if you are a resident of the 1st state. You would need to verify that, as a TX resident, another state's license would actually satisfy the law in TX. Getting a TX license sounds like your wisest choice
 
Why wouldn't you just take your own states class, are you afraid you might not pass, or do you have something to hide?
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1st off, if I had something to hide, do you really think it's any of your business?

2nd, for the record, a Texas CHL costs 2-300 everywhere I've looked and a 10 hour course. The Utah permit is 130 for the class and state fee and a 4 hour course.
 
You would need to verify that, as a TX resident, another state's license would actually satisfy the law in TX.
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Yes, Texas recognizes out-of-state CHL's held by Texas residents, even if the individual does not hold a Texas CHL.

Why wouldn't you just take your own states class, are you afraid you might not pass, or do you have something to hide?
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What business is that of yours?
 
First of all, telling someone that's it not their business to ask questions after you post your situation in a public forum seems a bit much to me. If you don't want people poking into your private affairs then keep them private. As soon as you start seeking input from anyone who happens to read your post you give up some of that privacy, no?

I have multiple permits from several states but I would recommend obtaining one in your home state first. Raises questions when you present an out of state permit and you seem to dislike questions.

So the TX class takes a few hours longer. You in a hurry? Maybe you'll actually learn something in the class.

God speed.
 
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...a Texas CHL costs 2-300 everywhere I've looked and a 10 hour course. The Utah permit is 130 for the class and state fee and a 4 hour course...
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Of course, the Utah class won't cover Texas laws, and it seems that you happen to be in Texas. So maybe you wind up getting yourself in trouble because you didn't learn all the Texas rules. Sounds like false economy to me.
 
You are right, it is none of my business, however, when you posted that you needed information about your state and did not want to take your own states class, it made me think.
 
You are right, it is none of my business, however, when you posted that you needed information about your state and did not want to take your own states class, it made me think.
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thats hardly fair. Im in TX and I don't want to take the states class either. I simply can't afford to take both the class and pay the outrageous processing fee. I'm sure it's that way for a majority of people who wish to abide by the laws, yet still be able to exercise some rights/privileges.
 
I've already contacted the class teacher, no worries there.

As it is, I will probably go ahead with the TxChl to avoid any incompetent officers that may not know about the reciprocal agreements among various states.

As to my personal affairs being no one's business but my own, I stand by that. If I choose to keep personal aspects of my life personal, then it's no one's business but my own.

If I had something to hide, do you really believe I'd chat about it with a group of strangers that I have never met.

All I asked for is an answer to, a seemingly, direct question about reciprocal laws and how they apply to common folk like me.

-John
 
There is often more than one answer to a question and sometimes additional info is helpful.

I stand by my statement that seeking help in a public forum opens you up to inquiries.

I still think it's a good idea to be licensed at home first and foremost.
 
I've checked out Crossfire in North Texas and will be attending for the TxChl and Utah Chp/Chl on the same day in a couple of months.

That way I cover all my bases and there are no problems with any leo's.
 
I live in NM, took the CCW course from an instuctor licensed in both Utah and New Mexico. Let's see Utah's license is for 5 years, costs 65.25 for the application and 10.00 to renew. New Mexico's is for 4 years (you have to reshoot after 2 years (more dollars) and costs 75.00 to renew. The instuctor told the class that NM is taking up to 120 days and Utah is running less than 45 with a max of 60. Guess which application I have sent in first?? I intend to get the NM permit also but have 90 days to submit after I shoot. So sometimes there is other considerations. Give the OP a break.
 
When I took my class both my state and the UT class were taught together.
Why not get the UT permit, save the extra money and buy another gun.
 
There is no reason to get the home state permit (at least in MY state, at least the last time I looked at this issue), since the Utah permit give reciprocity, and my state is just stupid enough to recognize out of state, non-resident licenses, just as mine from Utah would be (and will be this year). Until they change the law, why would someone pay for the higher fees of both classes and license for their home state one?
 
It became popular to take the Utah class because it is reciprocal with the most states. That said, it is also one of the least informitive, least law based, and most dangerous CCW permit available. out of state Utah instructors are sending people out with guns who have not been properly versed in their own state laws, nevermind good gun saftey or shooting proficiency. Loopholes like this make honest men seem not so honest...

PremiumSauces...why?
1. Cops not knowing the state-state crosscarry laws, and causing you headaches.

2. If you do get into a shooting situation, and end up in court, an out of state license is going to leave a MASSIVE point of contention in the trial. A jury could see past what is really 'legal'.

3. while i, like most here, think the gun laws should be national (and not state based), it does come off a tad irresponsible that a person would choose a shorter, less informative, cheaper class by which to defend their lives. preying on the 'stupidity' of you state only reflects on your own state of mind.

if the easy way was the best way, it would be the ONLY way.
 
Carry Permits etc.

There is a site that gives a world of information regarding carry permits of the different states as well as all other handgun laws is www.Handgunlaws.com

There is information there you just can't get anywhere else or they tell you where to find it if it isn't there.
 
Raises questions when you present an out of state permit and you seem to dislike questions.
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Tough toenails. Doesn't rise to the level of "reasonable suspicion" of ANYTHING.

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Nice. A permit is "dangerous"? Do you really buy into the nanny-state distrust of "just anyone"? Which one is the "least dangerous in your eyes? Check out this interesting thread: http://www.eotacforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=58611&start=0

There are some strong arguments that banning concealed carry made sense in the 1800s when open carry was common for men [and women] of "honest intent". In the 2000s, however, there is an equally strong argument that open carry is provocative and dangerous, that laws requiring permits for CCW have no effect on criminals, and the best way to administer the program these days is to maintain a "prohibited persons" list of only those who have forfeited the right to carry concealed.

No one has to this date shown me any credible evidence that "no training" or "lax training" states have any more "problems" with CCW licensees than those with the most stringent, or most restrictive, or "fails the highest percentage of applicants" states.

I believe that the entire system is now backwards. There appears to be no truly rational basis for the restrictive permit-only regime, since the only concealed-carrying people who cause problems do so by committing other crimes unrelated to their mode of carry, the carry laws do not deter them, and the "good guys" are not causing any problems.

"Should" and "good idea" are actually poor excuses for thinking and analysis when considering stepping on Constitutionally-protected rights.
 
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