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Very disturbing Wal-Mart trip

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Shield529, Jun 6, 2004.

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  1. Shield529

    Shield529 Member

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    This is my first post here after alot of lurking.


    Went to a Wal-mart in Arkansas today and purchased 1 box of .40. As always they request ID. and ask if its for a handgun.
    After telling her yes and handing her my ID. the cashier runs my license through to same reader as the credit cards.
    Having never seen this done before I asked about this and she replied that Wal-mart likes to know whos buying handgun ammo. and that they turn all the drivers license and purchase info over to the State Police. She stated that as far as she knew they had always done this.
    Now I am in law enforcement so I know Arkansas State Police is not collecting this info, and I have never had this done at Wal-mart before.

    So I am asked if any of you have experinced this recently, if its just something new they are doing. Or if I just had an isolated nut.
    I also had no time to speak to the manager at the time.
     
  2. grislyatoms

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    Never had anything like that happen at Walmart. Last time I was there and bought ammo was about 6 weeks ago or so.
     
  3. Barbara

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    That is complete bull and I'd be interested in knowing if other stores do it. I just always answer no when they ask me if its handgun ammunition, so I'm not sure.
     
  4. 41mag

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    I bought ammo @ Wal Mart today.No questions asked.:confused:
     
  5. longrifleman

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    Bought two boxes of handgun ammo Fri after work at Wally World here in Mo. No new, different and exciting statist bs here.
     
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    Being in AR, first I've heard of it.
    Being as I don't do WM and all...

    This afternoon a buddy calls , said he was running something down for a FIL. Barrow rd and Geyer Springs WM did NOT ask for ID, what type of weapon or anything... nothing. He bought 3 boxes of 9mm at one and 3 boxes of .45ACP at the other...

    Give us the location.
    On any given day WM has 200 lawsuits I'm told...what is a little more paperwork...I hate WM anyway...another excuse to write a letter...

    Goes way past the "Second Amendment Bigots"...

    Maybe China will let them move the home office their and take the rest of that ilk with them...
     
  7. Mr. Clark

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    I've never even been asked for ID when buying ammo at Wal-Mart. Last time was last week, 2 boxes of WWB 9mm.

    Maybe it was an attempt at intimidation. "We know who you are, and now the police will too." It could just be to prove that the clerk checked your ID. Maybe they had a problem with that and the auditors came up with the idea to scan IDs. Either way, I'd make a call to a manager.

    Can those scanners at the register read anything but credit/debit cards, anyway?
     
  8. orangeninja

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    Just tell 'em its for a carbine. Ruger PC4 or somthing. In Texas some places will do this if you buy alcohol at a club in a dry town. But not with ammo.
     
  9. P95Carry

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    Sounds like significant BS ....... but nonetheless concerning for sure.

    I'm too old to get asked for I/D .... and if I do get asked what the ammo is for - I always prove helpful by answering ''both'' .... well .... gotta lot of carbines!:D
     
  10. CrudeGT

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    I'm pretty sure those scanners are only for credit cards. I think she was told a lie by her manager, and relays the information in an attempt to put fear into would be criminals. I've purchased ammo at wallmart a few times, and never even been asked for ID.
     
  11. Selfdfenz

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    I seem to remember last year when I bought my TX hunting license they swipped my DL.

    I didn't have problem with that. I buy ammo at 2 WMs. One asks, the other does not usually. They are less than 4 miles apart.

    To the best of my knowledge in TX there is no legal requirement for an ammo seller to collect information regarding it's use in a rifle or handgun. What we are most likely dealing with is a company policy. Company policies can be changed IF the customers flex their muscles enough. My guess is WM makes very little profit on G&A but it brings in buyer of the rest of the stuff they sell, hence they carry the common stuff.

    You have to think the WM legal department would love to see ammo and firearms dropped. My guess the beans counters have more leverage so there you have it.

    S-
     
  12. Norm357

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    I CALL B.S..
     
  13. firearms_instructor

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    Shield529,

    Does the Arkansas driver license have a magnetic strip? If so, can you charge ammo with your DL? (just kidding)

    Maybe the cashier is an anti and disapproves of people buying ammo.
     
  14. DMF

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    Let's see last time I was at a Walmart in Nebraska, I purchased 400 rounds of 9mm, 200 rounds of .45ACP (gotta love that cheap Winchester Whitebox) and 1100 rounds of .22 LR (also gotta love those cheap Federal Bulk Packs). I was never asked if it was for a handgun, and no one asked for ID until they ran my credit card which has CHECK ID written on the signature strip.
     
  15. shermacman

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    You should move to a gun friendly state like Massachusetts!
    My local Wally World's sports department looks at my Class A carry permit but never 'swipe' it, they never asked for my Driver's License.
    Several years ago they would ask if ammo was for a pistol or rifle. For boxes of .22lr I would answer "both" and let them sweat out the classification code. I was asked one time about a box of 12 gauge shot gun shells....:rolleyes: I wanted to say "pistol"...
     
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    I would have discussion with the Manager FOR SURE.
     
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    Alot of the licenses now have the same type of magnetic strip a credit card has. A few weeks ago some people figured out that if they swiped thier dl through the credit card slot on the gas pump at a Meijer station they could fill thier cars at no charge , until Meijer figured out what was going on but Dl info was recorded and now charges do apply (legal charges that is).
     
  18. lee n. field

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    Illinois Walmart, they only ask for the FOID, and record nothing.
     
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    Well if you are in law enforcement, why didn't you tell her that you didn't collect any info like that? I would have. She was probably just making it up or going by what somebody else told her. You missed an opportunity to find out what was really going on or at the least set her straight IMO.

    The Walmart here takes the ammo to a front register, other than that they haven't checked my I.D. yet. I mostly buy .22lr value packs and Winchester 9mm 100 round value packs, that's about it. And I get carded in liquor stores and bars all the time....
     
  20. Don Gwinn

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    Lee, not in the central part (Springfield area.) There they usually ask the pistol/rifle question. I don't buy ammo there anymore. It wasn't the question, it was waiting for somebody to show up to take my money when the local shop is glad to do it and I can BS about guns afterward.
     
  21. Dex Sinister

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    And why are you handing her your D/L in the first place? I realize the LE mostly now thinks that "see" means "possess" [i.e., most would be quite annoyed if one pressed one's D/L against the window, rather than physically handing it to them] but that certainly doesn't apply to clerks at WM!

    Dex
     
  22. Jay Kominek

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    I had my driver's license (with mag stripe) run trying to get into a strip club, once. They had a little hand held doohicky which read the stripe and displayed the contents on an LCD.
    I guess they figure kids making fake IDs can't just go buy mag stripe encoders to go with their laminators and card printers.
     
  23. Shield529

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    A responce to a few of the replies.

    I was in a hurry and had my family with me, I just did not have the time to try to educate someone of that mindset.

    My LE ID was exposed when I handed her the license so she knew but still tryed her BS.

    Yes AR licenses do have the strip on the back but I don't think thier equipment is set up to read it.

    I figure she just and anti trying to scare some people out of buying. I will be calling Mgmt. tommorow.

    I never did have this come up at this Wal-Mart before.

    Thanks for all the responces
     
  24. LiquidTension

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    I always get carded at WM, and they always ask what type of weapon it's for - handgun or rifle. Naturally, I always answer, "subgun." Only one clerk even knew what that was, and his comment was, "if you've got a subgun, you're gonna need more than 2 boxes of ammo."
     
  25. Treylis

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    Ridiculous.

    Never had that happen here in Arizona... and the few times I get asked the handgun/rifle question, I always go: "Oh, it's for my submachinegun." ;-)
     
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