Violent mob attacks, what to do?

[Ridge]

I would have Convoy playing loud and clear and floor it,right on through 'em.

"Pig pin this here's the Rubber duck and I'm about to put the hammer down"

 

[Ryder]

I watched to see if the four that mugged me in Oakland were participants. Pretty crappy video. Can't ID anyone from that.

Maybe others watch because they have anger to satisfy? Maybe they're just curious? You get pleasure Don't think I'd be attributing the motivations of others to how I feel.

 

[RavenVT100]

Having been to Oakland once, and never wanting to go back, I can totally see this happening there.

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Just wondering if any Oakland LEOs took advantage of this film...

I still maintain that a 642 might be enough with this crowd. Two headshots, brains and skull flying into the crowd... 642s are loud and throw some flame, should scare the hell out of the animals.

They will split for a while, then regroup. Yep, there would be a few carrying, and if they reached into their pants instead of running, I would try to pop them immediately. I would just hope it is less than 4! Get in the car and get OUT NOW. If more than 4, you are dead anyway.

If you survived, then get the hell out of Oakland and never come back.

 

[c_yeager]

That looks like something from some third world country, but it apparently happened in Oakland, CA.

You were right the first time.

Seriously, if anyone hasnt had the opportunity of driving through Oakland (even in the daytime) i would strongly urge you to do so. You will honestly see an entirely different country. This is a place that contributes *nothing* to the country, and probably represents one of the highest per-capita welfare participation rates in the nation. Its really enough to make a person wonder if walling the place into one big prison isnt a bad idea.

 

[OF]

Oakland Police: No Report Of Mob-Beating
http://www.nbc11.com/news/4883270/detail.html


POSTED: 5:01 pm PDT August 22, 2005
UPDATED: 5:09 pm PDT August 22, 2005

Oakland police say they have seen a graphic mob-beating video making the rounds on Internet file-sharing sites.

The posters claim the video -- which captures a mob beating a woman it believes to be a police informant -- was shot in Oakland.

Police say it has no reports of such an incident and no way of telling if the video was even shot in Oakland.

NBC11 has a copy of the video, but has chosen not to show it because of its graphic content and because there is no way of verifying the poster's claims.

 

[Mixlesplick]

I have thought about this kind of situation a little. There is an area near me where the streets are flooded with people on warm summer nights. It wouldn't take much to set a bunch of them off into a mob. I would be ready and willing to use the gas pedal in a situation like this. If that didn't work the last ditch effort would be with my pistol. I'm pretty sure West Michigan is nowhere near as rough as Oakland, though.

I usually stay out of that area except in the morning when things are quiet. This is where about one hundred people attacked the police station one night because they thought their friend had been unfairly arrested. All the area police were called in to help repel the attack. I understand the OC was pretty thick in there that night.

Whenever I think of mobs attacking I think of the tv footage I saw that was taken from a helicopter. It showed a man being pulled from his semi truck and being beaten to death. I think it was during the LA riots in 1992. That video was a real gut checker for me. I won't ever forget those images. I also will never give in if caught in a situation like that. It's a death sentence.

 

[Biker]

A bit off topic maybe, but in 1978, I saw a man get beaten to death. It was one of the ugliest things I ever witnessed. I've seen a few come close to the same fate on a few occasions since then and in 2001, I came close myself. I was armed with a 5 shot 45 LC revolver on my left ankle but couldn't get to it. The strangest thing though is that the whole ordeal was relatively painless (at least at the time) because most of the damage was done while I was out cold. I know that I was knocked out at least three times because I remember waking up at least three times and they were still working on me.
Real life ain't Hollywood and we make mistakes. Sometimes we pay dearly....
Biker

 

[itgoesboom]

I grew up on the other side of the Oakland hills, in a nice little town.

Because of that, I went into Oakland quite often, and saw the good and the bad.

I personally never had any problem, despite being a skinny white boy who wore cowboy boots, belt buckle, and wrangler jeans.

But I was also smart enough to avoid certain areas, and watched my back closely.

I.G.B.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Oakland Police: No Report Of Mob-Beating

Wait a minute! You mean it's a hoax?

 

[CAnnoneer]

Wait a minute! You mean it's a hoax?

I can't believe that. Nobody would trash that car so badly, and rip up and beat up that woman so viciously for a hoax. More likely, nobody filed a complaint because the dead don't fill forms and the other present were the mob.

I wonder though, just because there was no complaint filed, shouldn't the police investigate nonetheless in view of the graphic video?

 

[torpid]

Whenever I think of mobs attacking I think of the tv footage I saw that was taken from a helicopter. It showed a man being pulled from his semi truck and being beaten to death. I think it was during the LA riots in 1992. That video was a real gut checker for me. I won't ever forget those images. I also will never give in if caught in a situation like that. It's a death sentence.

Reginald Denny is his name, and he survived the attacks (barely).

(Wikipedia)-
"Paramedics who attended to Denny said he came very close to death. His skull was fractured in ninety-one places and pushed into the brain. His left eye was so badly dislocated that it would have fallen into his sinus cavity had not the surgeons replaced the crushed bone with a piece of plastic. A permanent crater remains in his head despite efforts to correct it."

From what I've noticed over the years, it appears sitting in stopped cars in the middle of angry and violent mobs is not a healthy pastime.

 

[Texian Pistolero]

Shoot for the boombox. Without music, they lose the will to fight.

 

[R.H. Lee]

It apparently happened in 2002.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/localnews/ci_2965177

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

From what I've noticed over the years, it appears sitting in stopped cars in the middle of angry and violent mobs is not a healthy pastime.

+1

Nope, I'd be outta there asap... You don't want to talk to someone at that point, or negotiate.

Run em down, shoot em, cut em ... I am going to try to get the (non Art's Grandma) out of there. No way I would stay. I would be moving 90 mph asap, and if I hit something solid, so be it.

 

[Dmack_901]

Supposedly it contained a snitch, but the thing is, mis-ID happens all the time.

- and mis-IDing is irrelevant. If she was the "snitch", that just means she had the fortitude to stand up the *people* and tell the cops of the illegal activities they did. It's not like they lynching an accused rapist.

 

[Biker]

To them it is. It's a completely different world than most of you live in. Not saying it's right, just the way it is.
Biker

 

[CAnnoneer]

It's a completely different world than most of you live in.

It is a world they have created and/or chosen to support and inhabit.

I have no pity for such scum and only wish liberal apologetics move in neighborhoods like that to live and understand why we need tougher laws and the death penalty for murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and organized crime.

A man is measured not by the circumstances he is placed in but how he responds to them. Their response does them no credit. They have chosen to be part of the problem, not of the solution.

 

[Chrontius]

Problem is the death penalty doesn't scare people anymore, and the defense has sought the death penalty from time to time.

 

[AK-74me]

That reminds me of a video I saw on "Real TV" or one of those shows, but this one happend in Atlanta at the Black Spring Break or Freaknick I think it is called. Basically a street full of drunk dudes form into a mob and strip some poor girl of her clothes then proceed to violate and beat her for no apparent reason.

 

[Mixlesplick]

Reginald Denny is his name, and he survived the attacks (barely).

Thanks for the clarification, torpid. I didn't know he had lived.

From what I've noticed over the years, it appears sitting in stopped cars in the middle of angry and violent mobs is not a healthy pastime.

Amen to that.

 

[CAnnoneer]

Problem is the death penalty doesn't scare people anymore

There may be few that would not be phased, both most perps value their (pathetic, painful) lives. The ones that don't, end up committing "suicide by cop". Still, there are about 2 million prisoners in the country, while you don't have 2 million dead in forced shootings by police. Hence, most perps value their lives.

The problem is that they know they won't get the death penalty, so being in maximal security prison or in their gangs-ridden neighborhood may not be that different. It is simply a rotating door anyway due to reduced sentences and overcrowded prisons.

Each prisoner on average costs you and me $ 40,000 per year. At 2 million prison population, that is $ 80 billion dollars annually! Imagine what we can do as a country if we wipe out the prisons and put this money into fundamental research, e.g. in alternative energy sources and medicine. Instead, we waste it maintaining the scum of the earth, which by the way gets better healthcare than tens of millions of law-abiding citizens! To give you a comparison, the National Institutes of Health (responsible for virtually all medical and biological federal research) have an annual budget of just 27 billion.

Anyway you look at it the system is just completely moronic and a disgrace. :banghead:

 

[Gordy Wesen]

And the Cops couldn't ID the driver, a totaled car or a missing dead person and there were no missing person reports. Nice police work.
I wonder how far she would have made it had she promptly exited the vehicle and ran into the crowd.

 

[mondocomputerman]

I agree with Mongo the Mutterer.

"I still maintain that a 642 might be enough with this crowd. Two headshots, brains and skull flying into the crowd... 642s are loud and throw some flame, should scare the hell out of the animals.
"

Bet they could hear the muzzle blast even at the edge of the croud

 

[odysseus]

I grew up on the other side of the Oakland hills, in a nice little town.

Because of that, I went into Oakland quite often, and saw the good and the bad.

I personally never had any problem, despite being a skinny white boy who wore cowboy boots, belt buckle, and wrangler jeans.

But I was also smart enough to avoid certain areas, and watched my back closely.

I.G.B.

I think I know where you are talking about where you are from. Know the area very well from my youth. Anyway, Oakland in the flats is very different than Oakland of the hills. Neither is central low Richmond (worse than Oakland in some places in my opinion). I am not sure you by yourself at the wrong time would do well there like that in some areas, but I can see what you are saying since I and many of my crew back then were not too different.

As another said here, many live their life very different than most people here would live, and they also believe to the bone in that reality. It's not all hip-hop types either, and many live on the edge of reality whereby they don't think they will live to middle age. It's a plagued culture. I loathe that area now and would not live or raise children near it. But I also see that culture growing and in many cities. It's not just an Oakland thang. And those who govern it just cry "we are vicitims" and only point fingers and ask for more government money. Pathetic.