walker charge ?

[LonesomePigeon]

The most accurate load in my Uberti Walker seems to be 45 to 50 grains 2F. Did the Ranger's actually have an official load for the Walker?

 

[45 Dragoon]

Thanks for the mention grter!! I've always thought a "long cylinder" Dragoon would be a hoot (a Walker cylinder fitted to a Dragoon)!! 60 grs. from a Dragoon would be quite a boom and a show!! Dang! Something else to think about!!! Lol!

Mike

 

[dickydalton]

Better go touch those off and see if they still work ok.

Took her for a spin today and all went well!

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• dickydalton
• Apr 23, 2018

 

[WWIINut]

Historically the original Walkers' metallurgy was poor and loading them to maximum capacity was detrimental. The modern steel in the repros make the repros a superior firearm. I wouldn't worry about 60 grains but I think that's a big waste of powder.

Hello! This is my first post to this group. I have been "trolling" for several weeks so thanks to everyone for their great information. I am relatively new to BP and didnt have the first clue about arbor fit and all the other tuning a modern repro needs for long term durability. I have been shooting an Uberti 1860 Army for a few years and haven't had any issue at all.

I just got an Uberti Walker a few months ago and tried 60gr charge of Pyrodex P. It appears that this higher charge caused a slight buckle/dipple in the trailing edge of the wedge cutout. I am positive I had the wedge tight at the time and even tapped it after a few shots to be sure. The wedge did move some but didnt think too much about it. I didn't see the dipple until cleaning though. Now the wedge can be pressed in so that it is about even on the left and right. Before, it was tight with just a small amount of the wedge showing on the left.

Was this due to poor arbor fit? I guess this is permanent damage but should I send it in to Goons Works to get the most life out of what is left? Or is this abnormal and should I contact Uberti? I am worried about shooting any heavy loads now so its just sitting. I can shoot 30gr in the 1860 .

I sent a request in a few weeks ago through Goons Guns website but still havent had a response. I guess he is busy. What is his current turnaround time? I cant find any contact information other than the email???

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

My old ASM Walker did the same thing. I have adjusted the arbor length and put a set screw in the end of the arbor to compensate for wedge wear. Haven't shot it enough yet to tell what improvements have been made although the accuracy has improved considerably. I stick to 45 grns of 3f with a 452 round ball. It has plenty of power to snuff jackrabbits without eating massive amounts of powder.

 

[whughett]

Brian S, "trolling" as used in forums may not mean the same as you intended it. Trolling is posting negative comments to elicit or bait reply's of an argumentative nature. Or at least that's my take on it. In your intent, I too love trolling the forums for useful, entertaining or educative material. The video versions even more so.

 

[PainlessWolf]

Good morning,
Around here, ( the forum ) trolling usually involves a Bass Boat and a good rod n' reel. It's one of the things that keeps me here. People can have have strong opinions and are welcome to them but they also seems to have a hefty dollop of common sense ( something seemingly lacking in many other online communities ) and know when to keep such things to themselves. We're not perfect but then not much is in this world.
regards and Heya! for Walkers!

 

[WWIINut]

Yes, trolling was the wrong word. Maybe lurking?

I have already been in contact with Mike. Seems like a great guy and someone you could talk with for hours with all his knowledge!

 

[expat_alaska]

Hello! This is my first post to this group. I have been "trolling" for several weeks so thanks to everyone for their great information. I am relatively new to BP and didnt have the first clue about arbor fit and all the other tuning a modern repro needs for long term durability. I have been shooting an Uberti 1860 Army for a few years and haven't had any issue at all.

I just got an Uberti Walker a few months ago and tried 60gr charge of Pyrodex P. It appears that this higher charge caused a slight buckle/dipple in the trailing edge of the wedge cutout. I am positive I had the wedge tight at the time and even tapped it after a few shots to be sure. The wedge did move some but didnt think too much about it. I didn't see the dipple until cleaning though. Now the wedge can be pressed in so that it is about even on the left and right. Before, it was tight with just a small amount of the wedge showing on the left.

Was this due to poor arbor fit? I guess this is permanent damage but should I send it in to Goons Works to get the most life out of what is left? Or is this abnormal and should I contact Uberti? I am worried about shooting any heavy loads now so its just sitting. I can shoot 30gr in the 1860 .

I sent a request in a few weeks ago through Goons Guns website but still havent had a response. I guess he is busy. What is his current turnaround time? I cant find any contact information other than the email???

You weren't trolling, You were "lurking" which is an entirely different thing. I don't tolerate trolls.

Uberti revolvers have long been known for poor arbor to arbor recess fit in the barrel lug. If your wedge shows wear/deformation it is a sure sign of the arbor not bottoming out in the arbor recess in the lug. The sole purpose of the wedge is to hold the barrel in place. It should not move when shooting, and you cannot repeatedly create the proper barrel/cylinder gap by using how far you drive in the wedge.

I would not modify the arbor with set screws and such. A better solution is to procure some .002" shim washers to place, one at a time, in the barrel arbor recess until it bottoms out and you get the barrel/cylinder gap you want. .002" gap is the maximum you want to get the best performance and minimize fouling at the front of the cylinder and the barrel forcing cone. That way you can fit any other barrel in the same fashion to your arbor/frame without worrying about the arbor length.

https://www.superiorwasher.com/cate...MIzpvD6r293AIVjMVkCh36Ew3tEAAYAiAAEgJVMfD_BwE

These guys know what they are doing and have a myriad of washers for you.

Goon is very busy these days as I am told. He is a very good guy so don't give up on him.

Good luck with your Walker. Sometimes wish I had one, but I think I would prefer a 2nd Model Dragoon. I am old and on SS so I have very little mad money to play with and those guns are really out of my realm, so I have to be content with replica Pietta 1851 Navy .36 guns.

Have a very good evening, sir!

Regards,

Jim

 

[whughett]

Walkers are a hoot to shoot, was that a pun, anyway like others on this forum I'm not a spring chicken anymore and the Walker is so darn heavy I have to lower the muzzle to the bench between shots, forget a one handed hold. How Walkers troopers managed to hit anything from horse back, one handed and aim at a full gallop is amazing. The 1851 Navy and the 1860 Army are getting most of my attention these days. I'm holding off the "old guys" shooting, seated at a bench, muzzle on a rest just don't appeal to me, although its surely coming.

 

[RWMC]

You weren't trolling, You were "lurking" which is an entirely different thing. I don't tolerate trolls.

Uberti revolvers have long been known for poor arbor to arbor recess fit in the barrel lug. If your wedge shows wear/deformation it is a sure sign of the arbor not bottoming out in the arbor recess in the lug. The sole purpose of the wedge is to hold the barrel in place. It should not move when shooting, and you cannot repeatedly create the proper barrel/cylinder gap by using how far you drive in the wedge.

I would not modify the arbor with set screws and such. A better solution is to procure some .002" shim washers to place, one at a time, in the barrel arbor recess until it bottoms out and you get the barrel/cylinder gap you want. .002" gap is the maximum you want to get the best performance and minimize fouling at the front of the cylinder and the barrel forcing cone. That way you can fit any other barrel in the same fashion to your arbor/frame without worrying about the arbor length.

https://www.superiorwasher.com/cate...MIzpvD6r293AIVjMVkCh36Ew3tEAAYAiAAEgJVMfD_BwE

These guys know what they are doing and have a myriad of washers for you.

Goon is very busy these days as I am told. He is a very good guy so don't give up on him.

Good luck with your Walker. Sometimes wish I had one, but I think I would prefer a 2nd Model Dragoon. I am old and on SS so I have very little mad money to play with and those guns are really out of my realm, so I have to be content with replica Pietta 1851 Navy .36 guns.

Have a very good evening, sir!

Regards,

Jim

Jim ,
Thank-you for your vital information about superior washer shims. I just received my brand new Uberti Walker revolver yesterday, and I plan on ordering the .002 thickness shims and checking out the arbor fit before I even shoot it. This also may be the cure for my ASM Richards Type I .44 Colt that has arbor pin issues.
Thank you again Jim!

 

[drobs]

You weren't trolling, You were "lurking" which is an entirely different thing. I don't tolerate trolls.

Uberti revolvers have long been known for poor arbor to arbor recess fit in the barrel lug. If your wedge shows wear/deformation it is a sure sign of the arbor not bottoming out in the arbor recess in the lug. The sole purpose of the wedge is to hold the barrel in place. It should not move when shooting, and you cannot repeatedly create the proper barrel/cylinder gap by using how far you drive in the wedge.

I would not modify the arbor with set screws and such. A better solution is to procure some .002" shim washers to place, one at a time, in the barrel arbor recess until it bottoms out and you get the barrel/cylinder gap you want. .002" gap is the maximum you want to get the best performance and minimize fouling at the front of the cylinder and the barrel forcing cone. That way you can fit any other barrel in the same fashion to your arbor/frame without worrying about the arbor length.

https://www.superiorwasher.com/cate...MIzpvD6r293AIVjMVkCh36Ew3tEAAYAiAAEgJVMfD_BwE

These guys know what they are doing and have a myriad of washers for you.

Goon is very busy these days as I am told. He is a very good guy so don't give up on him.

Good luck with your Walker. Sometimes wish I had one, but I think I would prefer a 2nd Model Dragoon. I am old and on SS so I have very little mad money to play with and those guns are really out of my realm, so I have to be content with replica Pietta 1851 Navy .36 guns.

Have a very good evening, sir!

Regards,

Jim

Jim or anyone else, what size / outside diameter washer is needed for the shims and the Walker?